The Linux CLI is a dominate user interface I use at work, it is also just called bash (well, that’s the default shell anyways). I have never tried an actual Linux desktop at work, web and native Mac applications are still dominate there (besides the CLI).
2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
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Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
What frustrates me is that other Linux users will tell you with a straight face that you must be flat-out lying if you bring up sleep problems. Had three users tell me that on HN just about a day ago.
Yea, but this is something unique to Linux, since everyone runs a different distro on different, never 100%-supported, hardware. So, they likely have never run into sleep problems- my desktop linux box doesn't have any at the moment. Sometimes these difficulties have a silver lining, though, after they force you to learn more about the systems you're using. I thinks it's less of a trial-by-fire than it was even four…
I’m sort-of fine with the issues. I’m not fine with the increasingly hostile attitude you meet from most of the Linux world if you in the public eye dare ding their precious baby.
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#163If I'm honest, Linux is...exhausting. I'm technically proficient, but even the "user-friendly" Ubuntu is a pain to work with. Something as simple as changing the mouse scroll speed requires creating a bash script. Software updates rarely work. There are random crashes that take hours to fix. I'm about to give in the towel and get a Mac. I can get it to work because the terminal doesn't scare me, but there's no way I…
> Something as simple as changing the mouse scroll speed requires creating a bash script
Indeed, I never realized there does not seem to be a Ubuntu system setting for adjusting the mouse wheel sensitivity. Apparently, standard solution requires installing „imwheel“.
Lol. Weird. Then, again, in 15 years using a scroll wheel mouse I never had the need to adjust its sensitivity.
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no singular 'linux experience', all the problems you list are expected problems with some software on linux, but work just fine with other software systems on linux. Unfortunately many of the defaults chosen by Ubuntu are very poor and give bad first impressions. I think that recommending Ubuntu is an anachronism from the mid to late 00s. Experience makes it all much easier, simply because you learn which sof…
> There's no singular 'linux experience' True, there’s two: 1. Complaining about your experience, only to be told that someone else doesn’t have problems because they’re better at it than you. 2. Being the guy who says he’s better.
At this point in my life I have almost lost all faith in people sharing an honest assessment of anything. The Linux is hard trope is really starting to bore me. I get it things may be different on Linux/Mac/Windows but most UI things are pretty easy to accomplish everywhere. Should I complain that windows is hard because find-xargs-grep isn’t available in the default install even though it is pretty easy to install the software?
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Should have been clearer: mousewheel scroll speed, which there's no way to control from the GUI.
Sure, but that is a fairly obscure setting that I don't think merits your earlier build-up "Something as simple as..." . On the one hand, I'd certainly admit Linux has "warts". It's GUI is perfectly usable and clear - it's more now what one is doing than the horror that is Windows 11 imo (and I'm working on that occasionally now). But the warts of Linux are accentuated by the OS attracting a certain kind of "OCD" use…
Mousewheel scroll speed is not a niche feature.
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#166If I'm honest, Linux is...exhausting. I'm technically proficient, but even the "user-friendly" Ubuntu is a pain to work with. Something as simple as changing the mouse scroll speed requires creating a bash script. Software updates rarely work. There are random crashes that take hours to fix. I'm about to give in the towel and get a Mac. I can get it to work because the terminal doesn't scare me, but there's no way I…
Yep. I don't use Linux on the desktop simply because I don't care enough to be assed with arguing with it. Thus I would rather swap my kidney for some Apple crap and put up with the trade off which is works vs flexibility.
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Should have been clearer: mousewheel scroll speed, which there's no way to control from the GUI.
Sure, but that is a fairly obscure setting that I don't think merits your earlier build-up "Something as simple as..." . On the one hand, I'd certainly admit Linux has "warts". It's GUI is perfectly usable and clear - it's more now what one is doing than the horror that is Windows 11 imo (and I'm working on that occasionally now). But the warts of Linux are accentuated by the OS attracting a certain kind of "OCD" use…
It's obscure on Linux, perhaps! Meanwhile this setting is in the control panel on both windows and macos. No shell scripting required.
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#168If you click through to the link, you'll see that the results add up to 150%. That should be a sign that something odd is going on with this survey result and we need to interpret it with caution. The question was "What is the primary operating system in which you work." (Emphasis mine.) The question itself implies that we should only be able to pick one, and yet the results clearly indicate that more than one was al…
Now that I'm no longer forced to use a Mac at work, all of my work happens on Linux. I only marginally touch Windows and Mac for testing and builds. If I can find a good MDM solution for Linux hardware and software, I'll let the employees at my startup use Linux too. I get a sense that corporate MDM is all that's holding Linux back.
Microsoft just released Linux support (Ubuntu) in their MDM Intune. It’s very barebones yet but provides first fundamental capabilities.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/fundamentals/su...
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/user-help/enrol...
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#169When I was at Google (2014-2017) - The Linux (I think it was Ubuntu based) just worked. Granted it was mostly java/blaze/little r/js/go, no dedicated graphics chips us (I came there from gamedev background). It was working just fine, and we had option to use Cinnamon or something else. The only thing I remember is that it wasn't that easy (or maybe my memory does not serve me well) to "apt update" anything (and that…
Actually now that I think, I might've had NVIDIA card of sorts. But what I meant to say, I never needed/care what GPU I have (unlike before), so it must've worked fine somehow. Maybe I got once or twice the machine to crash, and it was all the time on.
Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?
#170Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…
Pick a T-series thinkpad with an AMD CPU/GPU combo and the latest fedora. Done. Don't forget that MacOS ships with very Limited hardware, too.
Sleep was broken for a year on those with the amd platform. Based on 4 laptops t14s gen 2 iirc.
Latest kernels seem to fix it. But tbh I felt like a fool handing those things to our freelancers.