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2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by jerrygenser »

Ironic for me. 2019, 2021 and half of 2022 were the years that I went all in on Ubuntu for desktop. It was an overall awesome experience as a developer.... and then Zoom and Slack started crashing randomly or having weird bugs where I'd needed to restart the app or even the machine in order to get them working again.

2022 is the year I switched back to windows as my development experience with WSL2 + being able to use Zoom and Slack without them crashing or getting random bugs.

Even running Linux GUI apps works well on Windows. Run evince file.pdf from the wsl2 command line and evince opens.

The one thing that doesn't integrate well is linux disk encryption utilities and windows. I wish I could use LUKS/cryptsetup but ended up giving up and using Bitlocker.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by soulofmischief »

brookst wrote: post #29
Avamander wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nvidia with Wayland? That's on you then, man.

Exactly why I only use linux for headless serves. God knows how many totally obvious mistakes would be “on me” if I tried to set up a GUI workstation. Who’s got the time to learn why you can’t use of of the main GPU brands with one of the main GUIs?

This is entirely NVIDIA's fault, not Linux's. AMD plays ball.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by dmix »

mumblemumble wrote: post #30

If you click through to the link, you'll see that the results add up to 150%. That should be a sign that something odd is going on with this survey result and we need to interpret it with caution. The question was "What is the primary operating system in which you work." (Emphasis mine.) The question itself implies that we should only be able to pick one, and yet the results clearly indicate that more than one was al…

Yep, Previous years = 100%, so the question has changed somehow

https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#technology-mo...

I guess you could use Windows at work and Linux at home (or viseversa).

I'd bet some people also say Linux becayse they have homeservers and other secondary uses besides their primary driver.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by phpisthebest »

BlargMcLarg wrote: post #4

Strange article trying to extrapolate a very biased subpopulation and grasping at other aspects to claim this year was "the year of Linux on the desktop". Unix was already dominating anything non-personal and non-mobile. Personal use outside enthusiasts and devs is still a blip on the radar. If anyone thinks otherwise, ask yourself how Windows continues to get away with such consumer-unfriendly practices.

Linux != Unix

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by fsociety »

Avamander wrote: post #18
pid-1 wrote: post #9

Rant: last weekend I finished building my teenager dream PC - 12 cores cpu, 64GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB VRAM... GNOME on Ubuntu still managed to crash / hang on a fresh install. Will try Mint / others, but it's a shame the "gateway distro for new users" is in such sorry state.

Nvidia with Wayland? That's on you then, man.

I recently went through the exercise of setting up two Ryzen PCs. One with an AMD GPU and one with an Nvidia GPU.

Surprisingly, the only issues I had with NVIDIA was that my window manager would not let me start it because I had an NVIDIA GPU. They make you pass a flag along the lines of “yes I am running NVIDIA with Wayland”.

The AMD GPU was a nightmare thanks to a long running bug. I eventually got it working, but it was unexpected. NVIDIA on Linux has improved a lot!

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by kmbfjr »

Then I am glad I missed it.

I spend my days fixing other people’s Linux problems, I don’t wish to fix my own on my own time.

I still love the OS, but only for Docker and Kubernetes. I’ll run a mature desktop OS with a plan over Linux, possibly Windows.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by jorvi »

nverno wrote: post #23
Arbortheus wrote: post #5

Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…

Sleep states are faulty on the Linux laptop I'm currently on, and I do occasionally waste time on interoperability with various commercial software, although countless hours seems excessive. But when it comes to running dev software or getting up and running with a new project, or compiling some github source, I think I save much more time than I've lost.

What frustrates me is that other Linux users will tell you with a straight face that you must be flat-out lying if you bring up sleep problems. Had three users tell me that on HN just about a day ago.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by Arbortheus »

Kukumber wrote: post #24
Arbortheus wrote: post #5

Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…

Bugs? sounds like they misconfigured their OS Linux is not a commercial product that'll suit everyone all at once, you need to learn about its components, linux is just a kernel If your argumentation is "various linux bugs", then you should stick to Windows, it has nice "various windows bugs", or macos, it has nice "various macos bugs" There must be a reason why linux empowers the world from micro controllers to data…

In principle I would love to use Linux, as the developer experience isn’t great on Windows, and I would rather not be tied into expensive Apple computers.

However, I don’t want to learn about components of my operating system, that is below my pay grade.

I’m not trying to spread FUD, I’m speaking firsthand on some of the experiences my colleagues have had with their brand new $3000 business Thinkpads running all manner of Linux distributions.

I don’t doubt Linux is the right choice when you are creating a tightly integrated, walled off product like a Nintendo Switch.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by pjmlp »

jacquesm wrote: post #22
BlargMcLarg wrote: post #4

Strange article trying to extrapolate a very biased subpopulation and grasping at other aspects to claim this year was "the year of Linux on the desktop". Unix was already dominating anything non-personal and non-mobile. Personal use outside enthusiasts and devs is still a blip on the radar. If anyone thinks otherwise, ask yourself how Windows continues to get away with such consumer-unfriendly practices.

Unix has been absolutely dominant on mobile for years now.

Try to write a pure POSIX applications on either iOS or Android.

https://www.usenix.org/publications/login/fall2016/atlidakis

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by davrosthedalek »

phpisthebest wrote: post #36
pid-1 wrote: post #9

Rant: last weekend I finished building my teenager dream PC - 12 cores cpu, 64GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB VRAM... GNOME on Ubuntu still managed to crash / hang on a fresh install. Will try Mint / others, but it's a shame the "gateway distro for new users" is in such sorry state.

Gnome Ubuntu is the "gateway distro for new users"? I would never ever Recommend that to new users. Mint, popOS, and a few others for people coming from Windows would be the "gateway distro for new users" gnome 3 is not for new users, back in the day, gnome 2.4 days maybe that was the case

At this point, the "gateway distro" for new users is running any of those in WSL. There is so much more buy-in if you can someone that they don't have to throw away their laptop and get one with this specific chip selection so that everything works. And if you can tell them that yes, of course, you can run your games at the same time, without fiddling, dual booting, or fear of getting banned for "cheats".
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