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2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by uneekname »

JadeNB wrote: post #85
LarryMullins wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no singular 'linux experience', all the problems you list are expected problems with some software on linux, but work just fine with other software systems on linux. Unfortunately many of the defaults chosen by Ubuntu are very poor and give bad first impressions. I think that recommending Ubuntu is an anachronism from the mid to late 00s. Experience makes it all much easier, simply because you learn which sof…

> I think that recommending Ubuntu is an anachronism from the mid to late 00s. What would you recommend as a modern-day user-friendly Linux experience? I've been looking for something not too demanding to put on an old X220.

Not sure about performance on an X220, but I've loved Fedora workstation edition. The default Gnome setup is pretty user-friendly in my opinion, a there's a decent amount of support to be found online.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by TulliusCicero »

These comments are hilarious.

Linux user community: Linux has been fine for casual users for years! Give it to your grandma, it's not a problem!

Also Linux user community: Wait, you used an nVidia GPU in your build? What kind of idiot scrub are you?

If there's one thing I've seen that's consistent with Linux users over the last two decades, it's been blaming users for all their Linux-related problems.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by vbezhenar »

Arbortheus wrote: post #5

Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…

Fedora was much better than macOS for me. Don't have your kinds of complications though.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by bananaboy »

phpisthebest wrote: post #70
brookst wrote: post #66

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Celebrity kernel hackers lobbing attacks at hardware makers in speeches is no way to run a compatibility matrix.

>Celebrity kernel hackers Wow... that is a take... Linus is a "Celebrity kernel hacker" really?

I could be wrong but it sounds like the poster is making a joke by parodying a line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by iamdbtoo »

uncletaco wrote: post #21
pid-1 wrote: post #9

Rant: last weekend I finished building my teenager dream PC - 12 cores cpu, 64GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB VRAM... GNOME on Ubuntu still managed to crash / hang on a fresh install. Will try Mint / others, but it's a shame the "gateway distro for new users" is in such sorry state.

Same story: 16 core, 64GB ram, 6900xt. And nothing crashes because even when being ridiculous I knew better than use Nvidia on Linux

I've been using Linux as my primary OS for around 3 years now with an nvidia GPU and haven't had any issues. I don't run Wayland for obvious reasons, but otherwise the system is rock solid. I have not had anything resembling the nightmare experience people claim with Linux and nvidia GPUs.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by uneekname »

andrewstuart wrote: post #93

I can’t consider Linux desktop until copy and paste is consistent and seamless and lets me use the macOS key combination everywhere. And of course all this should just work, not be a series of cli commands and configs.

because it's usually Ctrl + Shift + C to copy from a terminal? Otherwise I haven't noticed much inconsistency on the distros I've used

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by fsh »

Arbortheus wrote: post #68
choeger wrote: post #32

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Pick a T-series thinkpad with an AMD CPU/GPU combo and the latest fedora. Done. Don't forget that MacOS ships with very Limited hardware, too.

Funnily enough, this is the exact spec of laptops (except with Nvidia GPUs) that all of my colleagues who have had these problems use.

Not surprising, since Nvidia is famous for terrible Linux support. I couldn't get scaling to work on my desktop with an Nvidia GPU, but my T-series Thinkpad (AMD CPU and GPU) works perfectly fine. In fact, sleep works better than on Windows since it doesn't do the stupid battery-draining "Modern Standby". If I send it to sleep on Linux, it actually stays asleep until I open the lid.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by jraph »

formerly_proven wrote: post #73
jorvi wrote: post #57

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What frustrates me is that other Linux users will tell you with a straight face that you must be flat-out lying if you bring up sleep problems. Had three users tell me that on HN just about a day ago.

It's really very hardware-dependent. You can have five machines and sleep and PM works just fine, but if you get unlucky you also can have five machines and three don't go to sleep and two have poor battery life. Sometimes this affects even devices marketed for Linux, like the framework.

> Sometimes this affects even devices marketed for Linux, like the framework

I was interested in the framework laptop at some point but it increasingly looked like a Windows-first laptop on which the company is happy about you installing Linux on it.

There are laptops marked 10/10 on iFixit on which Linux works perfectly, I'll pick them until this changes.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by kayodelycaon »

Gigachad wrote: post #94
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #39

If I'm honest, Linux is...exhausting. I'm technically proficient, but even the "user-friendly" Ubuntu is a pain to work with. Something as simple as changing the mouse scroll speed requires creating a bash script. Software updates rarely work. There are random crashes that take hours to fix. I'm about to give in the towel and get a Mac. I can get it to work because the terminal doesn't scare me, but there's no way I…

>Something as simple as changing the mouse scroll speed requires creating a bash script. I just checked on my Macbook and I couldn't find any option to change scroll speed. So it's more that on Linux you _can_ create a bash script to do just about anything even when it's not a feature the OS has. Unlike others where it's either a simple UI button or you just can't do it.

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-your-mouses-...

It’s under Accessibility.

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