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California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Post by hotpotamus »

jmugan wrote: post #184
e10jc wrote: post #61

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Sounds like me! I'm moving back to CA after ~2 years in Dallas. I didn't hate Dallas, but my fiancee does. But yeah the weather is awful: 115 degree summers, below-freezing winters.

It's hot, but 115-degree summers is an exaggeration. The high is usually around 100 degrees (still too hot, of course). I do much prefer the weather in California.

The heat index in South Texas is regularly pushing the one-teens. It's why I'll probably move away one day despite having lived here my whole life.

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Post by trentgreene »

subharmonicon wrote: post #154
mc32 wrote: post #143

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San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

I am not sure if you are speaking from experience or looking at weather data, but in 13 years I have never seen indoor humidity high enough to make mold likely. Higher humidity with cool temperatures does not feel like high humidity with high temperatures, which can be unbearable. I sweat profusely in the latter conditions and not all all in the former.

Lived in the Presidio, all my neighbors plus our house has a pretty big mold problem, likely from the humidity. When we called maintenance, the answer was to manage airflow and yeah, it’s the presidio, stuffs gonna mold.

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Post by mempko »

rsj_hn wrote: post #65
lovelearning wrote: post #34

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> when your richest citizens are leaving But the article says "a majority" of those leaving were middle- or low-income people.

A "majority" of any sizeable group is not going to be rich. What is important for fiscal impact is that the rich are leaving, not that other people are also leaving. If you want to see data, we can look at IRS data: "New York’s tax base shrank by $19.5 billion while California lost $17.8 billion as a result of workers fleeing those states during a time when lockdown measures allowed employees to work remotely, accord…

Not that California is better, but all those places are stupid places to move to for global warming reasons. At least in the long term.

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Post by mempko »

SecurityMinded wrote: post #169

I am glad to be a part of this trend in 2022. Good bye Californian suckers. Hello Texas. No more mooching off of my money, handing it to illegal aliens.

Global warming is going to mess up your fun. Texas will eventually become unlivable. Not that California will fair much better...

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Post by trentgreene »

MrOwnPut wrote: post #145
jupp0r wrote: post #141

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"Lovely" as in was settled only after AC and refrigerators were available widely.

Your Texas history could use some buffing. Or appliance history at least (though we had iceboxes for quite some time!) Maybe that's why we fought so hard for The Alamo; to clone it's futuristic A/C for later settlements...

The Caddos were living in east Texas pre-Spanish contact! The Spanish word Tejas comes from a Caddo word.

There is a gap in the literature though as to whether the Caddos had central air. We can only speculate.

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Post by ch4s3 »

rascul wrote: post #159
mc32 wrote: post #143

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San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

> San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem). I've lived in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Georgia and mold has never not been a problem in those states. I have never lived in San Francisco though so I can't compare.

That’s odd, I was just in Savanah and every place I went there smelled like mold. It was overpowering in one store I went into, where a local remarked that you don’t notice after awhile.

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Post by nocoiner »

wysewun wrote: post #43

Moved from the bay to Texas because of everything i heard. It was such a horrible experience. The heat, the bugs, the lack of density. So few days of good weather. Maybe worth it to some, but a bigger house was not worth it to me at all. We moved back in 6 months. So many people want to live in California which causes more issues

I’m a life-long Texan (more or less), and this sounds like totally logical analysis. I love living in Texas, but I don’t particularly care for our state government, but it also doesn’t affect me enough to affirmatively desire to leave the state. I’d love to live in California but not sure I could afford the lifestyle I’d like to maintain. In fact, quite sure I couldn’t - CA is a great place!

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Post by nocoiner »

Aloha wrote: post #167
runnerup wrote: post #136

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I like the heat here in TX. I moved from Michigan, where I also enjoyed the cold (but not the lack of sunlight, affinis Seattle). Saudi Arabia was a bit too hot for my taste, but Texas summers are very enjoyable to me. I may be an outlier, but I genuinely enjoy doing things outside in the Houston summers.

I grew up in Los Angeles, and moved to DFW from Seattle, I'm solar powered, while houston is a little too hot for me, DFW is quite pleasant. As it turns out I'm solar powered, I'd love to go back to Los Angeles, but I'll never be able to afford it again.

But DFW is hotter than Houston? Houston is more humid and can sometimes feel warmer, but DFW is typically 5-15 degrees hotter on the same day in Houston, and the heat there is comparatively bone dry.

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Post by vpilcx »

renlo wrote: post #157

How smug are Californians that those who always disagree with them always “must be Republicans”? They really said people are leaving the state because of “political reasons” (ie, “they’re Republicans, aka, ‘non-regrettable attrition’”)? Couldn’t be all of the other reasons could it. I say this as a California native who left for a litany of reasons, last of them being the politics.

It's not so much 'people who left California are Republicans" but more, 'people who post on social media about how they're leaving California -are- Republicans".
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