How NYU’s Emergency Room Favors the Rich

Post by jordansmithnz » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 2:37 PM UTC

jbandela1 wrote: post #19

jordansmithnz wrote: post #15

I’ve seen a similar thing happen at another well known NY hospital. My wife was waiting to give birth with all beds taken up. A couple walks in, very unhappy that there is a wait, and we exchanged some conversation with them. It was quite apparent they were from wealthy families. She had requested to be induced, after being a couple of days past her due date (extremely normal for a first pregnancy). A nurse told us p…

> they were there for a voluntary c-section. This is the key to understanding this incident. A voluntary c-section is scheduled surgery. There is already an operating room reserved for it and staff. As with other scheduled surgeries, the patients and their families often have a pre-op waiting area where they wait for the surgery, so that there can be minimal delay getting them back to the operating room when it is re…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 2:43 PM UTC

bradleyjg wrote: post #13

smeej wrote: post #7

How many people do you think the hospital can treat with the $3 billion (yes, with a B) that Langone helped raise? Or even just the $200M he personally donated? Which is better for the individual people who might (and I stress "might," since the hospital denies it) have to wait slightly longer on a day he needs care? To wait slightly longer there, or to wait slightly longer because they had to route to a different ho…

The US government, which only provides treatment for its own employees, retirees (including veterans), the poor, and the old spends more per capita on healthcare than the UK government, which covers everyone. On top of that employers and employees spend trillions a year. Why do we need billions in donations on top of that? Where is all the money going? Let’s ask NYU Langone executives that.

Post by vrc » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 2:53 PM UTC

jordansmithnz wrote: post #21

jbandela1 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they were there for a voluntary c-section. This is the key to understanding this incident. A voluntary c-section is scheduled surgery. There is already an operating room reserved for it and staff. As with other scheduled surgeries, the patients and their families often have a pre-op waiting area where they wait for the surgery, so that there can be minimal delay getting them back to the operating room when it is re…

Now that I recall more clearly, I got this part wrong… they had requested an early induction (not a scheduled c-section). Unsure if that changes things, but they weren’t going straight to an operating room.

Post by bradleyjg » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC

baeaz wrote: post #24

bradleyjg wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US government, which only provides treatment for its own employees, retirees (including veterans), the poor, and the old spends more per capita on healthcare than the UK government, which covers everyone. On top of that employers and employees spend trillions a year. Why do we need billions in donations on top of that? Where is all the money going? Let’s ask NYU Langone executives that.

Seems logical if you disproportionately treat poor and old/retired people you have to spend more per capita than a healthcare system that treats much younger and therefore healthier people.

Post by sokoloff » Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 3:18 PM UTC

Retric wrote: post #28

sokoloff wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t just influence his future actions, but rather the future actions of all possible large donors . Further, I can’t imagine that the premise of this prioritization did not come up in discussions with the development staff as they were finalizing the details of a 10-figure donation. In that regard, this policy probably did influence his past actions as well.

Detailed arrangements would likely be tax fraud on a tax deductible donation, so I doubt they made such things explicit. Just because something is called a donation doesn’t mean it qualifies as one.