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Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ease staffing shortages

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Re: Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ease staffing shortages

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Post by ejb999 »

eastbound wrote: post #342
matwood wrote: post #305

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Even pre-pandemic I never liked people coming in my room during my stay. First thing I always did when checking in was put the 'DND' placard on my door. All these changes just fit with how I operated for years.

I’ve always thought that hotels mandated daily cleaning just to check you are not performing illegal activities (abduction, drugs, sharing the room, prostitution), having a heart attack or stuck and need help.

no, not really - they (vegas) did briefly after the mass shooting from the resort window, but before that, and since then I always leave the DND sign up, even if I am there for a week, and never had a problem.

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Post by ejb999 »

washywashy wrote: post #294
emptybits wrote: post #74

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> But if a hotel starts letting people stay weeks without checking their room, ... Yet I think people regularly stay for weeks with Airbnb/Vrbo without any host inspection or cleaning. I agree with your conclusion (filthy guests who stay weeks invite pest problems) ... so if the big bad old hotel industry needs to market their advantages, maybe there's an Institutuionally Clean angle.

Pretty sure some airbnbs don’t even clean between guests. I’ve had some iffy experiences, and because of the consistently issues, it’s why I prefer hotels now unless there’s no other option.

same here - airbnb had its day in the sun for me - its back to hotels for me whenever I can.

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Post by alistairSH »

wikfwikf wrote: post #205
jltsiren wrote: post #155

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I've started to dislike this perspective, because it feels like an "if the only tool you have is a hammer..." kind of explanation. It's a valid perspective, but it's not the only one, and other perspectives are often more useful. Maybe the issue is just that hotels don't want to pay enough. Maybe there is an actual shortage. Then any single hotel can solve the shortage by paying more, but hotels in general can't. Or…

What real wage growth?

Wage growth vs inflation.

If your wage goes up 10% but inflation is 11%, you actually have a real wage decrease. Generally speaking anyway.

Re: Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ease staffing shortages

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Post by factsarelolz »

enumjorge wrote: post #100
factsarelolz wrote: post #94

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This job seems great for moms that want to work part time while their kids are in school. 11 am - 3pm.

If we ignore the low pay, physically demanding work, bad benefits and and unpredictable work schedule, then yeah I guess these jobs sound great for moms.

Physically demanding? What's the difference between cleaning a hotel room and cleaning your house or bedroom? There's absolutely zero heavy lifting. You change the sheets, vaccuum and wipe down everything.

I would option to say taking care of kids is more physically demanding than cleaning.

If it's just supplementary income it wouldn't really matter about benefits as the spouse would already have benefits.

Re: Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ease staffing shortages

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Post by themaninthedark »

drewrv wrote: post #11
missedthecue wrote: post #3

I wonder where everyone has gone. The lazy answer is that companies aren't paying enough. But how is it better to sit at home making $0 than working and having an income? How do they afford rent or electricity or pay for car insurance? The workforce participation rate is still well below pre-pandemic levels. Millions of people just up and left the workforce. It's not as if they are looking for work at the right wage,…

Over a million people died of covid. Many more have become permanently disabled. Many of them were retired seniors but among the people who were not, they were disproportionately service workers who couldn’t wfh.

If COVID deaths severely impacted the number of workers, then their housing should have opened up. Instead we see the housing supply even more constrained and prices rising.

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Post by lnsru »

thinking4real wrote: post #110
makeitdouble wrote: post #66

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> But how is it better to sit at home making $0 than working and having an income? I had that very discussion with a co-worker leaving. They told me working wasn't worth their time, and they'd better care for their home, family, themselves etc. instead. And it wasn't that they were rich or their partner had a high paying job, more that the cost of daycare, private teacher, eating outside every day, work related stuff…

Ok, but this is still missing a very important element - where the hell are they getting finances to live? The point OP is making us these people probably need ~$2000 a month to live at an absolute minimum. No luxury, no gadgets, just getting by. How does one decide “working isn’t worth it” but still magically has these funds?

The whole working Germany comes with close to ~2000$ well. Many poor European countries have enough people living from 300-500$. I could also do that if needed. What’s so expensive in US that you need 2000$? Last time I checked housing in Florida was super cheap by German standards.

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Post by balderdash »

missedthecue wrote: post #3

I wonder where everyone has gone. The lazy answer is that companies aren't paying enough. But how is it better to sit at home making $0 than working and having an income? How do they afford rent or electricity or pay for car insurance? The workforce participation rate is still well below pre-pandemic levels. Millions of people just up and left the workforce. It's not as if they are looking for work at the right wage,…

They’re on the dole. Why would you work when you can stay home and get paid just as much if not more?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/18/it-pays-not-to-work-in-bidens-...

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Post by ghaff »

scarface74 wrote: post #350
ghaff wrote: post #344

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We use Egencia which is owned by Amex. And it has all my loyalty program info.

Ahh. You’re not talking about the public AmexTravel portal. Your company pays the booking fee instead of the hotel. On that case, you’re probably directly charged by the hotel and Egencia charges the company/end user the fee.

Right. Egencia charges us booking fees which we expense.

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Post by tantalor »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #357

Again, it’s not a staffing shortage, it’s an entire population fleeing an industry due to a pay shortage

Fleeing to where? Are other industries paying better? Except for niches like tech, wages are stagnant across the board.
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