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Re: How Apple names things

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Post by currywurst »

aaronharnly wrote: post #40

Hmm, the topic is a nice one, but I think it proves the adage, “a force-directed graph visualization is never the right way to articulate anything.” It’s very hard to discern much of interest.

In general I would agree, but since you mentioned "never" I have to interject ; )

In this visualization, I was immediately able to pick out clusters around "i", "Apple", "touch" and so on .. and the interactivity helps me to quickly filter and explore. So, I think that for an exploratory tasks, a force-directed graph helps.

Re: How Apple names things

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Post by zootboy »

andirk wrote: post #84
hnlmorg wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is confusing. Why have a hardware product and a streaming service named identically aside the addition of a non-alphabetically symbol. When people talk about Apple TV I’m never quite certain which product they’re referring to and have to infer that from the context of their sentence.

Such as "I like my Apple TV" probably implies the hardware box whereas "I like Apple TV" means the streaming service.

Except Apple loves to drop the articles when describing their hardware. E.g. "With iPhone, you can do X, Y, and Z!". So "I like Apple TV" could easily be referring to the hardware box in Applespeak.

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Post by latexr »

xnickb wrote: post #117
latexr wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are a lot of things to also hate about apples naming schemes Which you’re free to do, and could have done without insulting the author. The submitted post’s very first sentence is “I love the way Apple names things”. The author likes them. They’re sharing a opinion, at no point do they imply they’re the voice of reason or that you should agree with them. What I see from their post is someone who made an effor…

> they’re not harming anyone That is to be proven. Encouraging and advocating practices that are counterproductive can be harmful. Maybe you just don't see how one company is shaping the entire market because a group of people (we can call them fanboys for the sake of argument) insists that their way of doing things is "the" way. Which it of course isn't and we see how that is ruining products that try to compete. Se…

> we can call them fanboys for the sake of argument

You don’t call someone a pejorative term “for the sake of argument”, you do it for the exact opposite. Insults are the antithesis of productive discussion.

> because a group of people (…) insists that their way of doing things is "the" way.

Which, again, is not what the author did. They didn’t claim Apple’s naming scheme was “the way”, they said they personally liked it. Period.

Re: How Apple names things

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Post by anaganisk »

tacker2000 wrote: post #19

This reads like some typical fanboi stuff. There are a lot of things to also hate about apples naming schemes, just look at the pro, max, se nonsense they cooked up. Also the naming scheme of Mac OS versions, i can never figure out which one came before or after the other, there is no rhyme or reason. Why dont they use alphabetical sorted names? Or years/numbers like Windows…?

Years numbers like windows? You mean like Windows XP Vista 8 10 11?

Re: How Apple names things

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Post by hgsgm »

codetrotter wrote: post #73
dingaling wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You don't need to know that. It does not matter. When a vendor says "we are dropping support for MacOS High Sierra and earlier" then it does matter. Does that include Big Sur? Catalina? Mavericks ? One has to go and look up the corresponding version numbers to determine that.

Every software vendor of any significant size knows to use version numbers of macOS, not just marketing names of macOS, when communicating that kind of information. Here are some random examples taken from some of the software that I use on my systems. JetBrains CLion system requirements: > macOS 10.14 or later https://www.jetbrains.com/help/clion/installation-guide.html System requirements for using Slack > MacOS OS…

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Re: How Apple names things

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Post by anaganisk »

knolan wrote: post #65

One of the nice things I liked about OS X when I moved from Windows/Ubuntu around 2010 was the clear but playful naming of apps and utilities. They seemed to have presence. The large and beautiful high resolution icons helped too. In Windows Disk Management was hidden away and searching for it would return a nebulous list with long winded descriptions but never name Disk Management forcing me to carefully read each r…

Mean while Samsung, Samsung notes Samsung file manager Samsung blah Samsung bleh Samsung blush

Re: How Apple names things

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Post by [deleted] »

tacker2000 wrote: post #19

This reads like some typical fanboi stuff. There are a lot of things to also hate about apples naming schemes, just look at the pro, max, se nonsense they cooked up. Also the naming scheme of Mac OS versions, i can never figure out which one came before or after the other, there is no rhyme or reason. Why dont they use alphabetical sorted names? Or years/numbers like Windows…?

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Re: How Apple names things

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Post by Jataman606 »

Edd314159 wrote: post #55
tacker2000 wrote: post #19

This reads like some typical fanboi stuff. There are a lot of things to also hate about apples naming schemes, just look at the pro, max, se nonsense they cooked up. Also the naming scheme of Mac OS versions, i can never figure out which one came before or after the other, there is no rhyme or reason. Why dont they use alphabetical sorted names? Or years/numbers like Windows…?

Is it so hard to just let someone enjoy something? Apple has a lot of problems right now, but it's still OK to say something positive about them once in a while. We don't need to fight about it and discredit it. Apple names are fun! It's a nice thing!

> Is it so hard to just let someone enjoy something?

Is it so hard to just let someone complain about something? Everyone can have their own opinion, i don't know why some people want every single one to be positive.

Re: How Apple names things

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Post by 3pac »

Apple has been dropping the article from iPhone advertisements. "With iPhone 13, you can...", not "an/the iPhone". To me, this breaking of orthography feels too much like reverential capitalization for something that is not exactly divine.
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