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Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

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Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

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post #2

This is perfectly legal, and OK with me, but many will perceive it as "democracy for those who can pay."

They'll perceive it that way because that's how it is.

There's no need to muddy the waters with "many will perceive it[...]" when the reality is that in order to participate in the vote you have to pay money.

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#32
post #6

So, at first, Elon Musk declared that the "current lords & peasants system" is bad. Now, he's implementing a system where it's Lord Elon, his $8 Vassals, and the rest of the unwashed Peasants cannot speak. He seems rather unclear on concepts of equality and free speech . . .

He had a good idea before the acquisition which was “authenticate all real humans”. Seems like that’d solve many issues on the platform, but imagine it’d be expensive to implement.

One automated human verification process that I've seen in the wild:

The Bumble dating app has you verify accounts by taking a photo of yourself making a pose.

Your account gets verified almost instantly. I'm not sure how it works, presumably some algorithm compares the verification photo to your profile photos. Plus there are probably other data that go into verification beyond the photo.

I'm curious how well it would stand up to AI generated profile pictures and a deepfaked verification photo.

Another verification process I've seen:

When you apply for a loan online, you are challenged to answer questions such as: select from this list of addresses the ones that you lived at, and select from this list of cars that you once used as collateral for a loan.

My point being, it's not impossible, but you're right that it won't be cheap. And not everyone on Twitter will be able to take part in automated verification for one reason or another.

Plus Twitter depends on free accounts to have enough people at the party. Or at least in the growth days that was important. Maybe it's not a priority anymore.

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#33
post #5

Perhaps the result wasn't the one he hoped for?

He is a/b testing ways to make money and to induce people to pay for blue checks or other IAPs. So he thinks if a poll that will get multiple millions of votes and tries to see how high a conversion rate is likely with a highly engaging topic like “how much do you hate me”.

I think he is just trying to find ways to drive people to make these purchases.

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#34

Makes sense if you vote Twitter as a private business (which it is). Prioritize the needs of paying customers who have skin in the game. Like any business would. On the other hand, it makes less sense if you view Twitter as a public utility (which it is not).

Yes, but you also need to attract new customers too, which sometimes requires features people don’t actually use, but think they’ll use.

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#35

In theory, (most) botnet operators can’t afford $8/month/bot; so this seems like a reasonable strategy from that point of view

In theory, yes, but it's known that these gangs who do platform manipulation somehow acquire SIM cards in bulk to register accounts en masse . And that costs money.

not 8 dollars, SIM cards are basically for free in countries with botnets, heck even in relatively developed Czechia I can get sim card for free

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#37
post #5

Perhaps the result wasn't the one he hoped for?

I'm not sure about that. He also had the "be careful what you wish for" tweet, which indicates he had something in mind if the vote was to step down. Also, I can't imagine he planned to put so much energy into this one part of his empire forever.

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Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#38
Musk could've easily accomplished all of his goals if he could just be more selective about what he says. Should've never mentioned anything about "absolutist" or "wokeism." Could've made all the same decisions (like trimming half the company, introducing "Blue", polling about re-admitting ex-presidents) and would now be in a totally different, much better position.

When he speaks, he closes doors and creates surface area for his critics to latch onto. They can rightly call him a hypocrite because he so often publishes things that he really should probably let stew for a while in his head first, whether or not he actually acts on it.

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#39
post #2

This is perfectly legal, and OK with me, but many will perceive it as "democracy for those who can pay."

> but many will perceive it as "democracy for those who can pay."

I don't know if I'd call it that, but it's certainly not "the world's town square".

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#40

Makes sense if you vote Twitter as a private business (which it is). Prioritize the needs of paying customers who have skin in the game. Like any business would. On the other hand, it makes less sense if you view Twitter as a public utility (which it is not).

From what I understand, a free user is actually worth more to the company than the $8 user from ad supported standpoint.
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