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Fortunately, this statement is true for many plans of the elite :-)
It's the reason why they switched from low-paid underlings to a little better paid caste of technocatric petty bourgeoisie for the XXIst century ;)
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> is it someone/something that simulates that person perfectly to the outside world what difference does it make?
Your experience ends. Whether someone else who happens to have the same brain as you lives is almost irrelevant in that context. Most people interested in cryo do this to prevent their experience from ending.
I could be a different experiencer to the one who was here yesterday, yet I retain their memories as mine so I have no clue that I'm 'new'. I might die today by falling asleep.
I may not even be the same a second from now.
As someone that has frozen cells down many times successfully, I don’t think this will ever work for bodies. If you could save your DNA and a few cells and be cloned at a later date is that good enough for you? No memories but the same code. Is that still “you”? It’s like being an identical twin of yourself.
No, that's not good enough, software (beyond epigenetics) is what matters here. I would say, that personality is the key thing that one might want to preserve. Ideally, memories as well, the more intact they are, the better. If possible, running it on the original hardware (i.e. the same brain) will satisfy people who believe in continuity of consciousness. (People hesitant to use a teletransporter[0]) Even a compute…
Sure my clone will have different experiences but I think it would think just like I do. It has different memories and experiences but I will have different experiences from here on out too. It’s the reaction to them that makes me, me.
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Uh? They already knew that which is why they tried to hide their tombs..
The builders of the pyramids tried to hide their tombs?
It's also worth noting that there are no hieroglyphs inside the Great Pyramids (which are supposedly said to be tombs), when the Valley of the Kings (an actual tomb) was caked in them.
Also, the only written text depicting the construction of the Great Pyramids, that I could find, is (again, supposedly) the Famine Stele. I find it highly questionable that there is only one text that tells us of the most notable construction of ancient Egypt's entire existence, and one of the most notable buildings to date. And not a single hieroglyph amongst the Pyramids' vicinity says anything about it either.
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I'm registered with a cryonics company to be frozen after death on a rare chance that it actually works. My reasoning is that I simply like living. I think that arguments against longevity often sound deep, but if you rephrase them in more straightforward terms, they'll seem completely devoid of substance. For example, what does "we're children of our times mean?" That once world changes too much, death is preferable…
I think about it this way, although i dont have the money to sign up yet.(and don't want to do a rate plan while being young). Basically every religion has some hope of afterlife/reincarnation. So for non religious people this also kinda provides this hope. And if it doesnt work out it is just a expensive funeral. If your dead body is burned, frozen or buried doesnt really matter in this case.
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In case it's insightful, I've correspondingly never understood the common contentment with death. The world is an incredible place, and there's so much to experience and do. If I had the time there's hundreds of careers I could spend a lifetime in each trying to develop mastery. I think I could live a thousand lives with the people I care about and not be done. I've had to choose one life, and it's a nice one, but if…
I'm absolutely shocked that more money and time is not spent researching how to cure death by aging. (Note that for those who discuss this semi-regularly, that's understood to be very different than seeking a cure for any particular age related disease, which usually we attempt to address when it's too late.). There are groups like https://www.levf.org/ doing some early work like Robust Mouse Rejuvenation (in mid-lif…
I suppose there are others but like you I don't understand why there isn't more focus and media attention on the root causes of aging, the ultimate killer.
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What lower hanging fruit are governments currently spending on? Giant militaries? Healthcare for those last few months of life?
> What lower hanging fruit are governments currently spending on? I meant what lower hanging fruits governments ought to spend on. However, since you asked, here are some of the things governments are currently spending on, but could bear improvement: eradicating preventable diseases, ensuring kids get good nutrition, better tracking, and hopefully prevention of e. coli/salmonella outbreaks, funding basic research in…
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Don't let the idiots get you down - the world is, and has been, becoming friendlier to little niches of people over time. The smart weirdos have been kicking butt for a long time now (at least the ones that can get to a friendly enclave) and this is set to grow exponentially. And if you're still pessimistic, consider this. A person I otherwise rabidly disagree with once said "political power grows out of the barrel o…
there is relatively little correlation between conformism and intelligence a world dominated by military power is not a nerd paradise consider the plight of the iranian nuclear scientists
2000 years ago, you needed a couple of engineers in charge of sword production and an army of Jocko Willinck types to wield the swords.
Now, you have an army of engineers producing drones, some other nerds remotely piloting the drones, and a couple of J.W.'s to do specialized strikes.
I don't see this trend reaching a stopping point anytime soon.
Never understood the quest for immortality. We are the children of our time. When our time passes, we will live as strangers in a strange land, drowning in the sea of nostalgia. Death will simply takes us back to where we came from before our birth. Don’t fear the reaper.
In case it's insightful, I've correspondingly never understood the common contentment with death. The world is an incredible place, and there's so much to experience and do. If I had the time there's hundreds of careers I could spend a lifetime in each trying to develop mastery. I think I could live a thousand lives with the people I care about and not be done. I've had to choose one life, and it's a nice one, but if…
Never understood the quest for immortality. We are the children of our time. When our time passes, we will live as strangers in a strange land, drowning in the sea of nostalgia. Death will simply takes us back to where we came from before our birth. Don’t fear the reaper.
The problem with death and aging in its current form is that it's non-consensual. Of course there will be people who would like to expire, and of course they will always be able to do so — the same way today someone who was diagnosed with a bacterial infection can refuse to take antibiotics and die exactly like everyone did in the 19th century. It sickens me when people romanticize death. There's nothing romantic abo…