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Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

#221

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There was a "follow all" and one "follow" button for each person for me in Firefox on Desktop/Linux. Try FF or Cr?

Ok I’ll just try on desktop when I’m at one. Thanks.

Indeed, the last column with the buttons that was hidden in iOS Safari shows up on Edge/Chrome desktop.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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> But you can mostly ignore that most of the time, and 99% of users do so. (in much the same way that iPhones are decentralized across cell carriers, but that mostly doesn't matter to regular folks). That wasn't the case at least for me. I couldn't ignore the decentralized part of the deal, because I couldn't register at mastodon.social like how I could with twitter.com. Registrations were disabled (still the same as…

> It seems every Mastodon instance is its own kingdom managed by people I don't know running on arbitrary rules they've set. Yep! This is also exactly how e-mail works, and yet everyone manages to get an e-mail account (or ten) with no problems. > I still gave their server browser a try, and couldn't find anything that looks remotely official on the first page. "Hello, helpdesk? I can't find the official email server…

> Yep! This is also exactly how e-mail works, and yet everyone manages to get an e-mail account (or ten) with no problems.

The vast majority of people have their primary address in one of the following ways:

1) Their ISP gave them an email when they signed up (with handhold support) 2) Their work gave them an email when they started (with handhold support) 3) They asked a tech savvy friend who told them to use GMail instead of 1 or 2 (with some support from said tech friend) 4) They signed up for a hotmail account 20 years ago and are still using the same password

You can't just handwave away that picking a server is _hard_ for non tech people, as they don't understand the significance of their choice. Twitter for comparison, is one site with a big "sign up here" button.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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post #177

Whoever threw too much money at clubhouse at the top valuation should have them start an excluseive, private, invitation only mastodon server. Like clubhouse was before mere mortals could join.

Or just make it open like Gmail and get 100,000x the users.

That is the kind of thinking that made clubhouse, once valued at 4bn, worth 0bn.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

#224
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It seems the Mastodon ecosystem has serious problems scaling. Most of the servers are closed to registrations, and we are just talking about a couple million new users over 2 months. What if 100 mil users want to move? Are we going to relive the Twitter history, which crashed every time Justin Bieber tweeted?

A couple of things: * It's mostly hobbyists running their instances, some literally in their basement. * Most scaling glitches have usually been addressed within a few days. The comparison to early-day Twitter is fair, maybe people have literally not expected such a fast scaling route. * I don't think anyone in their wildest fever-dreams expected Elon Musk to burn down Twitter this fast, thus causing a mass-migration.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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If you want to give somebody your handle, you say "@elonmusk," instead of saying "@elonmusk@mast.don.vanity.tld". (I didn't think Horseshoe Theory would bring back bangpaths, but here we are.) Personally I believe a big central silo for so-called public discussions is a terrible idea, but I do understand there is some value to it. However, there will always be a problem with this sort of thing because a very large nu…

> If you want to give somebody your handle, you say "@elonmusk," instead of saying "@elonmusk@mast.don.vanity.tld". People seem to be using e-mail just fine…

Do they? I regularly have people think I work at their company when I tell them my email is @. People try an add a ".com" to my 5 letter gTLD, and try and add a ".au" to any "@gmail.com" address.

Normal people struggle pretty hard with email. Or at least a fairly significant portion of them. Giving them something that looks like an email, doesn't work as one, and includes an additional @ sounds like a tech support nightmare.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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If you want to give somebody your handle, you say "@elonmusk," instead of saying "@elonmusk@mast.don.vanity.tld". (I didn't think Horseshoe Theory would bring back bangpaths, but here we are.) Personally I believe a big central silo for so-called public discussions is a terrible idea, but I do understand there is some value to it. However, there will always be a problem with this sort of thing because a very large nu…

They're not bang paths, but rather the standard user@host of email. Imagine the absurdity of arguing "if you want to give someone your screenname, you just say SteveCase instead of having to say stevecase@example.com" What I don't get is why all of these services with the similar format have to adopt their own quirky address formatting, rather than piggybacking on the same format as email. I should be able to just te…

This is much more difficult for normal users.

You'd need to set up your domain of example.org to have some form of SRV or TXT record to say "example.org" points to "mastodon.social", or even records per user if you wanted granularity.

You could also use .well-known or other domain verification/pointer methods. However if I'm joe@gmail.com, how does another user on mastodon know how to contact me? Where is my home server?

Someone could maintain a centralised lookup DB with auth to show you own the address (and I believe Matrix allows for that optionally), however isn't that the opposite of what the fediverse is meant to be?

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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post #177

Whoever threw too much money at clubhouse at the top valuation should have them start an excluseive, private, invitation only mastodon server. Like clubhouse was before mere mortals could join.

Or just make it open like Gmail and get 100,000x the users.

GMail was invite only, limited signup for the first 12 months, which is what got people to move from Hotmail and Yahoo, the big ones.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

#228
post #5

It seems the Mastodon ecosystem has serious problems scaling. Most of the servers are closed to registrations, and we are just talking about a couple million new users over 2 months. What if 100 mil users want to move? Are we going to relive the Twitter history, which crashed every time Justin Bieber tweeted?

This is why Nostr is the way

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

#229
post #188

If I was in charge of Twitter, I'd remake it so that it's just a Mastodon server. Suddenly, no reason to migrate to another server, as you can just stay in the biggest one and keep your clout. Google pulled off something similar with gtalk and XMPP. Remember Jabber?

i remember. but was google "successful" with that approach? XMPP is a pretty niche thing, but i can count at least a couple friends who use it on occasion, whereas i haven't heard a single person near me mention gtalk in years.

Google killed Google Talk in favor of Google Hangouts, which they recently also killed in favor of Google Chat. XMPP federation died with Google Talk.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

#230

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> You are aware that an entire generation of Internet forums operated (and still operate) this way, right? And yet many of them died or, better put, most of the new forums were never born nowadays because communities moved to centralized, managed solutions (Facebook, Telegram, Discord, Slack etc)

Many of the focused niche discussions around the globe still happen in forums (and subreddits).

Reddit is as centralized as a platform could ever be.
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