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Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

alkonaut wrote: post #70

Movetodon lists all my Twitter follows and their corresponding mastodon handles but the tool doesn’t let me follow them? Clicking the mastod name leads to a as 404 and that’s it? I was hoping to be able to just say ”follow all” or at least do it one by one. Am I not holding it right.

Most of the mastodon ecosystem is semi functional at best right now. They got a small herd of people showing up which means pretty much all the existing capacity is full so stuff is breaking left and right.

Give it a few months and a fraction of the people still interested can probably sign up without issues.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by maxsilver »

cbozeman wrote: post #8

Mastodon is not and will not ever be a replacement for Twitter. Twitter's too large and the people who had bleu checks before the $7.99 fee are addicted to attention, validation, and/or lording their bleu check status over others. That's why Mastodon won't replace it. Sure, a few small (relative to Twitter) alternative Mastodon instances will pop up, but no real challenger or contender for the throne.

> the people who had bleu checks before the $7.99 fee are addicted to attention, validation, and/or lording their bleu check status over others.

This is not a thing people regularly did? Old-school blue checks were never a status symbol, just a way Twitter used to denote "real" (meaning from-the-author-stated) and "fake" (real-humans-parodying-someone-else) accounts.

The idea that they denoted status was a criticism born from misunderstanding and invented by far-right activists who mostly were never involved in Twitter socially during the first 10 years of it's run, and never really understood Twitter user's culture. 99% of people with "blue checks" were not doing some holier-than-thou dance or whatever. (It's also why none of these people are rushing to pay $8 for this newly-invented blue-as-status symbol thing -- it was never about status, these people are already often rich and famous or at least noteworthy in their field, they don't need some weirdo micro-validation from Twitter.

Only a completely tone-deaf crazy person would pay money for Twitter in an attempt to gain validation or status.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by boredhedgehog »

mempko wrote: post #56

The discussions how a decentralized system like Mastodon won't work reminds me of the early days of networks. People were saying the same thing about the web and the internet and claiming CompuServe and AOL would dominate. Twitter is like CompuServe and AOL, Mastodon is like the internet. One based on proprietary systems, the other based on open standards like ActivityPub. History showed that centralization is ultima…

> Mastodon is like the internet

Which is why I believe that once the fediverse has fractured along ideological lines, as it inevitably must, the end result won't look much different from the old internet: big influencers running their own site/blog, with loose connections to ideological allies and a bunch of commenters in orbit.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by mbauman »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #129
mbauman wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This view of "the blue checks" as a uniform elite class is really fascinating to me — and I think is partly why Elon bought the thing in the first place. It cuts both ways — both the overvaluing of the check and the denigrating of those who have it.

1) sign up for twitter 2) tweet 3) no one responds 4) quit twitter This problem is magnified with blue check marks. The engagement problem is obvious. Twitter prioritizes influencers over end users and doesn’t have the appeal of Facebook.

I don't understand. Are you entitled to someone's attention and engagement?

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by wittycardio »

cbozeman wrote: post #8

Mastodon is not and will not ever be a replacement for Twitter. Twitter's too large and the people who had bleu checks before the $7.99 fee are addicted to attention, validation, and/or lording their bleu check status over others. That's why Mastodon won't replace it. Sure, a few small (relative to Twitter) alternative Mastodon instances will pop up, but no real challenger or contender for the throne.

The blue checks were given to public figures and serve a very valuable purpose. I'm not sure why people are so mad at the "blue checks".

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by alkonaut »

guerrilla wrote: post #117
alkonaut wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see any options or ”follow all” at all, just a list of accounts. This is safari on iOS 15. The only two buttons are “Logout” and “Hide followed accounts”

There was a "follow all" and one "follow" button for each person for me in Firefox on Desktop/Linux. Try FF or Cr?

Ok I’ll just try on desktop when I’m at one. Thanks.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by fleddr »

adamrezich wrote: post #79
cbozeman wrote: post #8

Mastodon is not and will not ever be a replacement for Twitter. Twitter's too large and the people who had bleu checks before the $7.99 fee are addicted to attention, validation, and/or lording their bleu check status over others. That's why Mastodon won't replace it. Sure, a few small (relative to Twitter) alternative Mastodon instances will pop up, but no real challenger or contender for the throne.

in the past few weeks I've personally found it very amusing to see pre-$8 bluechecks on twitter telling their followers that they're moving to other (non-mastodon) social media services, then you click the link to their new profile there and almost without exception find out that they've been "Verified" on that platform too. it's like they can't imagine using a social media website unless they have some kind of visib…

Not to mention that this "new activity" on Mastodon is people on Mastodon talking about how bad Twitter has become.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by mindslight »

deltarholamda wrote: post #22
spaceribs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I could pose this question another way, what does Twitter do that Mastodon can't?

If you want to give somebody your handle, you say "@elonmusk," instead of saying "@elonmusk@mast.don.vanity.tld". (I didn't think Horseshoe Theory would bring back bangpaths, but here we are.) Personally I believe a big central silo for so-called public discussions is a terrible idea, but I do understand there is some value to it. However, there will always be a problem with this sort of thing because a very large nu…

They're not bang paths, but rather the standard user@host of email. Imagine the absurdity of arguing "if you want to give someone your screenname, you just say SteveCase instead of having to say stevecase@example.com"

What I don't get is why all of these services with the similar format have to adopt their own quirky address formatting, rather than piggybacking on the same format as email. I should be able to just tell people that I'm "someone@example.org", and have that work for email/matrix/mastondon/etc (and be autodiscovered!) with the appropriate hosting setup.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by [deleted] »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #129
mbauman wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This view of "the blue checks" as a uniform elite class is really fascinating to me — and I think is partly why Elon bought the thing in the first place. It cuts both ways — both the overvaluing of the check and the denigrating of those who have it.

1) sign up for twitter 2) tweet 3) no one responds 4) quit twitter This problem is magnified with blue check marks. The engagement problem is obvious. Twitter prioritizes influencers over end users and doesn’t have the appeal of Facebook.

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Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by tablespoon »

jarbus wrote: post #125

How does scaling laws of the fediverse differ to scaling laws of email? Hadn’t the success of email already shown that it’s possible to scale decentralized protocols?

> How does scaling laws of the fediverse differ to scaling laws of email? Hadn’t the success of email already shown that it’s possible to scale decentralized protocols?

It's only kinda decentralized now. Email massively re-centralized around gmail and a few other providers.

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