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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by sytelus »

BryantD wrote: post #420
croon wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reconcile this with what you wrote: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604593057676300288

That’s not really my job. If you want him to resolve the discrepancy between what he Tweeted and what’s on the policy page, you should ask him. I do agree that there’s a discrepancy there, to be clear, and I think the policy is ridiculous no matter how you read it. I also think it’s bad that Musk is shooting from the hip in confusing ways. Given that PG got suspended, the weight of evidence seems to be that my interp…

If you don't like TOS, don't worry. Emperor will change it in next hour or so through his next tweet.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by justapassenger »

tim333 wrote: post #376
computerex wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile others have been warning about his lunacy for years and up till recently have faced nothing but backlash from his internet armies. It just feels so good to see comments like yours. It's out in the open now, everyone now knows he is a greedy charlatan.

>everyone now knows he is a greedy charlatan. I think he's good at the engineering stuff. It's just social media is not really his forte. I wouldn't go for the TSLA short myself.

He’s running all of his other companies like Twitter. Total disregard for any risk management, firing people who aren’t yes man and lying about his products and intentions.

With Twitter you get to see how sausage is made. It doesn’t scare you, that same chaos is used to build machines that can kill people?

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by BLanen »

echelon wrote: post #93

I was a pretty big Elon fan a year ago. SpaceX is/was a monumental achievement. He's gone insane. Suggesting Taiwan and Ukraine surrender, all this Twitter nonsense... I'm shorting TSLA to $50 on Monday.

> He's gone insane.

He has literally always been this way. He's a moron. There is no meritocracy. He got there through dumb luck and narcissism which the media/you people interpreted as confidence. If you actually listened to him talk at any point you could hear that he really doesn't know shit about anything.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by notatoad »

dym_sh wrote: post #313
dbish wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mastadon UX is really frustrating. Hoping there's a better option for following him in the near future

which exact part is frustrating? there are some additional twitter-like mobile clients, i.e. - https://www.macrumors.com/2022/11/29/tapbots-ivory-mastodon-... which supposedly fix the difference

my main frustration right now is the inability to follow somebody on a different instance from a web link, coupled with all instances using the same theme. when somebody links to https://mas.to/@paulg, i end up on a site that looks exactly the same as mastodon.social, except i can't sign in to it, and i can't actually click the follow button there. if i want to follow @paulg, i have to go to my instance and search for @paulg@mas.to

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by rocket_surgeron »

asteroidbelt wrote: post #246
easygenes wrote: post #22

Free speech!

This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions. This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). Twitter could be an exception. But it won't.

You are correct in that this is not a free speech issue. Private organizations can control what is said on their platform.

You are 100% incorrect in that free speech is not, has never been, and will never be limited to political preferences/opinions.

Commercial, frivolous, inconsequential, satirical, and all other forms of free and independent thought are "speech".

"Drink more Ovaltine" is speech the same way "slavery is bad" is speech. These two disparate utterances are equally important and protected as "speech".

"I like big butts and I cannot lie" is speech as important as a treatise on political theory.

The comment you replied to lampoons Musk's "free speech absolutist" schtick. A nuance you have failed to appreciate.

What hasn't been noted here, yet, as far as I can tell, is that the EU prohibits this type of behavior (banning mentions of competitors) and it will be interesting to see how they respond. But that's an antitrust matter, not free speech.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by JaneLovesDotNet »

dbish wrote: post #113
teddyh wrote: post #5

For those who missed it, his Mastodon is: https://mas.to/@paulg

Mastadon UX is really frustrating. Hoping there's a better option for following him in the near future

I feel like someone should lean into the fact that twitter is going insane and make a carbon copy of it, instead of trying to innovate on the concept/UX. Maybe even use a similar name, like bitter, xitter, etc.

Innovation is usually the way to overthrow incumbents, but in this case a carbon copy might be more effective.

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Post by cristoperb »

asteroidbelt wrote: post #246
easygenes wrote: post #22

Free speech!

This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions. This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). Twitter could be an exception. But it won't.

> This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions.

Maybe not as much before Musk, but it does now:

https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...

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Post by consumer451 »

SilverBirch wrote: post #134

There's kind of three options here: * Elon is personally policing twitter, and has banned PG in a fit of pique, despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup * Twitter's staff are just being crazy over the top with bannings - this might actually be the most likely. It's kind of obvious that Twitter has some automated systems that suspend accounts when they get mass reported, and some people with a sense of…

> despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup

I wasn't sure that you were serious, but lo and behold...

https://imgur.com/a/kyoI2X6

picture was posted by: Chief of Public Affairs - Air Force/Space Force (prior position: Space Force 45th Space Launch Delta Media Relations Chief)*PERSONAL ACCOUNT-OPINIONS ARE MY OWN

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by dredmorbius »

I've just caught the BBC's top-of-the-hour newscast, and the fact that Twitter is banning posts / profiles for referencing other services made the news summary.

Web story: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-your-money-64021412>'

NPR as well as of the 5pm E.T. news rundown.

For anyone who doesn't think this isn't huge news with global impact, think again.

NYTimes: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/18/business/twitter-ban-soci...>

Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/18/twitter...>

Deutschlandfunk: https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/links-zu-konkurrierenden-onli...>

And since that Twitter link may change, and archive I captured a short while ago: https://archive.vn/ucUdh>

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