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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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No, it's not clearly a violation. From Elon Musk: > Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme. That was very casual and not at all an example of relentless advertising for competitors. It's also extremely dubious that PG was trying to evade Twitter enforcement.

This absolutely was not casually sharing a link that happened to be on another platform. It was an announcement about quitting twitter and an advertisement on where he could be found on a competing platform. It is straight up the EXACT scenario that the policy was put in place for.

Do you know what the word relentless means? A single mention cannot be relentless.

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Mastadon UX is really frustrating. Hoping there's a better option for following him in the near future

It's so painful to use. It's such a waste they're winning the network effect battle off of Twitter's collapse. Not that I have a better alternative (open to suggestions).

Mastodon is the protocol. You can't really quit "Twitter" by joining "email", for example. It doesn't make sense.

Now maybe you can "quit Twitter" to join "Gmail", which is an email service. Similarly, people are going to have to pick Mastodon servers that work with them the best.

Tumblr seems to be the weird one (promising ActivityPub, aka Mastodon, support soon). Tumblr seems to be my personal best bet, but I'm also open to suggestions.

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You'd be surprised how resilient these people are

Musk supporter here, downvoted proof here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33985682 I’m in agreement with all of you. This is some BS that goes against all the ideals of an open internet. He’s not just being petty by banning competitors, he’s banning link aggregators. A lot of them are used for organizing political movements or needed for running a business. This move means he doesn’t understand social media. Ba…

Seems like its going to be a bit late - what better way to promote your competition than acknowledging it and banning it? Just streisanded himself.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Twitter is not an institution. It is not a utility. People can just leave and go to another website. It will take time for a new website or websites to figure things out at scale, both technologically and socially. But people were patient with twitter in the fail whale days and I assume they'll be patient with another service in the future. This guy is running twitter like it's his personal website. Which, it is. But…

It is kind of an institution, it really has been a de facto town square of the internet in a way that no other social media platform ever was.

But it could die. The network effect works both ways, and if big accounts emigrate it's in real trouble.

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I was a pretty big Elon fan a year ago. SpaceX is/was a monumental achievement. He's gone insane. Suggesting Taiwan and Ukraine surrender, all this Twitter nonsense... I'm shorting TSLA to $50 on Monday.

Meanwhile others have been warning about his lunacy for years and up till recently have faced nothing but backlash from his internet armies. It just feels so good to see comments like yours. It's out in the open now, everyone now knows he is a greedy charlatan.

>everyone now knows he is a greedy charlatan.

I think he's good at the engineering stuff. It's just social media is not really his forte.

I wouldn't go for the TSLA short myself.

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You are wrong about what PG said. In fact, his Tweet included an explanation of where to find a link to his Mastodon account. Elon has made it clear that these blatant attempts at ban evasion are not allowed.

That's not very free speech of twitter, now is it?

Even worse, does it apply any ethical principles to the decision making around the limits of freedom of speech? I.e. when you're weighing up whether, say, incitement of violence, or Nazi support are beyond the line of what is acceptable, do you also place 'promoting alternative social media technology' as somewhere near these limits of freedom of speech?

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For those who missed it, his Mastodon is: https://mas.to/@paulg

Would be pretty amusing if Paul Graham decided to invest in the Mastodon ecosystem. That said, I think Elon is a pretty public cautionary tale of why emotionally driven financial decisions are a bad idea.

Not an investment, but a donation to a server is a good start: https://mas.to/@paulg/109536767974913388

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post #113

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Mastadon UX is really frustrating. Hoping there's a better option for following him in the near future

It's so painful to use. It's such a waste they're winning the network effect battle off of Twitter's collapse. Not that I have a better alternative (open to suggestions).

Twitter gave some suggestions:

https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/160453126541959168...

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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No, it's not clearly a violation. From Elon Musk: > Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme. That was very casual and not at all an example of relentless advertising for competitors. It's also extremely dubious that PG was trying to evade Twitter enforcement.

He didn't just casually share a link to his site though; he said "you can find my Mastodon account on my site". That's basically just posting a link to your Mastodon account, but with an extra step. Is the new policy bullshit? Sure. But clearly this is against the spirit of it.

What happened to absolute freeze peach?
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