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Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by runevault »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #73
ceejayoz wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it'd collapse on the tech side before the policy side. Rather shocked the mask has come off this quickly on what "free speech" actually meant.

Large distributed systems that have already been built can often limp along for a very long time before falling over. I would give Twitter at least another 3-6 months for stuff to start breaking.

On what level do you mean? 2fa already broke at one point (no clue if they fixed it I don't use two-factor as my twitter account is not terribly important)

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by dontknowwhyihn »

wpietri wrote: post #75
belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

For sure. Given that Musk was fired from [deleted, see note 1] and PayPal, you'd think they might have had more questions. But people look at failure much more carefully than they look at success. I think the next wave of interesting questions is around the extent to which Musk contributed the apparent successes, SpaceX and Tesla. We won't know for a long time, as a lot of the people in the know have a strong incenti…

I worked at Zip2, and am pretty sure Elon was not fired.

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Post by mjmsmith »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #42
cyberphobe wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in the replies to this tweet he insists[1] "Elon is a smart guy" in spite of all the evidence to the contrary [1] https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1604557444247539712

He can't alienate a big potential investor to future funds.

TikTok isn't on the list of banned social media links.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by jimbob45 »

threeseed wrote: post #21

There’s an old adage about never meeting your heroes that applies well to PG. Some of his daily takes were so embarrassing and insipid that it was hard to maintain respect. It’s funny because his long form posts which are often insightful were likely reviewed/edited by a third person. A concept he has actually said only exists in the modern commercial publishing era.

I feel that there's a fitting SMBC on this topic.

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2010-01-29

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Post by TuringTest »

tlogan wrote: post #127
belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

Majority of people here on HN were also convinced he will try to make Twitter better. Not everybody believed that he will succeeded but it seems like majority belived that he will at least try hard. Like improve app to purchase things (one click checkout), integrate with real time news, some free speech, sports, … so many ideas

How can they brag about freedom of expression and then forbid promoting their competitors through their site? [1]

They are well within their rights to do so, but that's the exact opposite of competing purely in the market of ideas.

1. https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platfo...

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Post by Octokiddie »

He didn't exactly say he's leaving Twitter. He said he disagrees with the moderation policy and gives a link to his Mastodon account.

That part about this being "the last straw" implies some change of view. Read in a certain way it could be a goodbye.

Kind of ambiguous and non-committal.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by UncleMeat »

josteink wrote: post #229
UncleMeat wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Deathcon 3 on jews" is more valuable speech than links to facebook profiles, gotcha.

Uh. Did you miss the part of my comment which said that link-banning being bad? Also nice hyperbole you got there.

What hyperbole? We've got a policy that is link-banning while unbanning people who are holding "legally allowed opinions" (nice edit) like Mr. West and other racists.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by Nomentatus »

bmelton wrote: post #148
wnevets wrote: post #26

Do people on HN still believe Elon isn't destroying Twitter?

I'll take the hit here. I thought electric vehicles were a really dumb idea. Too many problems to be solved for. Range. Charging. Depreciation. Getting people to switch. All of the other infrastructure. Now it's what everyone does, and Tesla is (last I checked) one of the very few EV makers that is able to make a profit on EVs, while upstarts in the space (including Ford) are losing money on every EV sale. I thought…

Agreed, well said.

Elon's had a busy productive life, and my take on my University friends who've had busy productive lives is that they now have the self-insight of a baked potato, roughly. No doubt because they haven't had spare time to reflect on their actions or motivations. But that doesn't mean they can't self-correct, it just means they usually have to run into a brick wall or two before they do. I'm guessing he'll correct this latest boner.

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