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Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by reducesuffering »

belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

And then immediately blocks anyone criticizing his asinine take: https://twitter.com/fennecsound/status/1592855964474298368

Called this a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33659020

"The emperors have no clothes"

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by wpietri »

ep103 wrote: post #32
halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #2

It's interesting to see these tech influencers and their lag time on giving Elon the benefit of the doubt before they've had enough. Will Elon ever have a "coming to jesus moment" and realize that he's alienated so many of his peers that he is, in fact, in the wrong? Or is he so delusional that he really does believe he has the answers?

You're assuming that Elon isn't doing what he intended to do, turn Twitter into his own personal, right wing echo-chamber with political influence.

As much as I dislike Musk and what he's done to Twitter, I suspect he didn't intend that. I just think that's the natural outcome of his feelings, his position in society, and his relentless self focus.

David Roth did a good job looking at the dynamic: https://defector.com/the-eternal-mystery-of-a-rich-mans-poli...

And Adam Serwer has a useful take as well: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/legal-righ...

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by consumer451 »

DiNovi wrote: post #18

Paul is an out of touch reactionary billionaire. when you’ve lost your own, maybe it’s time to acknowledge you don’t know what you’re doing

> Paul is an out of touch reactionary billionaire

My theory is that humans are just not evolved for billionaire levels of wealth disparity. It's not a criticism, it just appears to be a fact.

Honest question: are there any "in touch" billionaires? Maybe Mark Cuban in some ways for example?

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by philjohn »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #42
cyberphobe wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in the replies to this tweet he insists[1] "Elon is a smart guy" in spite of all the evidence to the contrary [1] https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1604557444247539712

He can't alienate a big potential investor to future funds.

That relies on Elon still having a lot of funds to invest, not a foregone conclusion at this rate.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by theCrowing »

belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

Typical Hot Hand Fallacy [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_hand

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by jacquesm »

pavlov wrote: post #78
halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #2

It's interesting to see these tech influencers and their lag time on giving Elon the benefit of the doubt before they've had enough. Will Elon ever have a "coming to jesus moment" and realize that he's alienated so many of his peers that he is, in fact, in the wrong? Or is he so delusional that he really does believe he has the answers?

Musk seems to be speedrunning into Howard Hughes status. He has so much wealth that, like Hughes, he could alienate every business contact and still spend the rest of his life making leftfield investments and watching movies naked in a dark hotel room. (Well, replace watching movies with tweeting, I suppose.)

He'll go well beyond that. Hughes stopped at self destruct. Musk is likely to take a lot of people and institutions with him on the way down.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by UncleOxidant »

dpweb wrote: post #171

I think the preferred approach if you’re outraged about Twitter management, is speak out about it on Twitter, as opposed to quit in protest. Fight the fight if it’s worth it.

Nope. The only way to win here is not to play. The more you try to "stay and fight" the more that gives twitter traffic and attention. Best to realize that Twitter is now as dead as MySpace and move on. Federation is the way so the fediverse it is.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by josteink »

UncleMeat wrote: post #202
josteink wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> re-enabling known hate-speech accounts “Hate speech” is left-wing code for “someone with an opposing point of view”. Having those accounts unbanned, if nothing else, is a healthy sign. What this thread is about though (banning outbound links to other platforms), not so much. That plain reeks of desperation.

"Deathcon 3 on jews" is more valuable speech than links to facebook profiles, gotcha.

Uh. Did you miss the part of my comment which said that link-banning being bad?

Also nice hyperbole you got there.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by willis936 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #81
belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

Right? Mass random firings of employees in multiple incompetent waves, blocking and expelling journalists and activists, re-enabling known hate-speech accounts, walking out of press conferences when questioned, spreading QAnon adjacent conspiracy theories... none of this annoyed Paul Graham enough to leave.. and in fact he defended the guy... But blocking links to Mastodon? That makes him leave? Like, uh, fine, but..…

None of those things incurred opportunity cost. I don't know who invests in what, but a cynical, logical explanation is on the table.
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