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Re: Bullshit

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Post by statictype »

bhrgunatha wrote: post #87
nostromo wrote: post #18

With Apple, I'm the customer, not a marketer. This makes me comfortable with our relationship. I don't really care about Ping or app store approval policies, so, meh... With Google, I can see their ability to become a shady company pretty easily, but it is just too damn easy to switch search engines. Bing isn't so bad you know. But Facebook knows so much about me, and the network effects are so strong -- this is the…

I'm deleting my facebook account tomorrow. I dumped all my data already and gave notice to my friends. I'd rather be cut-off than have to pay their price; they've proven time and time again how little regard they have for your privacy. Every slight change facebook makes means re-evaluating all of the privacy settings and other configurations to re-assess what extra information is being leaked without warning or appro…

I understand your point. But it has never bothered me (so far) because I've never posted anything on Facebook that I want private. I do things there with the full expectation that someone will be able to see it if they really want to. I also treat Dropbox the same way.

That said, I've also been toying with the idea of removing my FB account - just because I'm bored with it.

Re: Bullshit

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

edw519 wrote: post #102

You forgot the biggest bullshit of all, Marco. Hacker News users: I'm so mad that the government is doing ! I'm so mad that big business is doing ! I'm so mad that venture capitalists are doing ! I'm so mad that angel investors are doing ! I'm so mad that got funding! I'm so mad that language doesn't do ! I'm so mad that I can't jailbreak ! I'm so mad that I'm actually expected to pay for ! I'm so mad that more peopl…

Isn't this comment just as cheap and reductionary? Many of the things you've listed their affect developers, startups and the system in which they are either able to succeed or fail. Even the characterization as nothing more than "I'm so mad" seems unfair.

Re: Bullshit

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Post by statictype »

KeithMajhor wrote: post #97
Joeri wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With google i feel like a data funnel, that's true. But with apple i feel like a money funnel. Apple always manages to make me spend more than expected. Their products are deliberately engineered to make it painful to seek affordable alternatives when you need new parts.

Can you give any examples of this? You may be over-generalizing. Most of their products don't even have replaceable parts. Are you sure their reasons aren't legitimate?

RAM from Apple is certainly expensive enough that almost no one recommends it. They also tend to nickle-and-dime you on accessories like converter cables.

Re: Bullshit

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

duk3luk3 wrote: post #119
zobzu wrote: post #35

Deeply agree on that list. But there are some o at least one company that I'd actually trust more than others, and support, and that's Mozilla. Because there's no share holders. Because it's owned by non-profit. And because their track record is perfect so far. Everything's open. All the development is in the open, not just the code. Everything's made for our best interest actually.

You should check who pays 80% of Mozilla's budget based on a secret contract Mozilla is not allowed to talk about. Not the users.

And? Their code is still open source, their development resources, calls and notes are available in a wiki. They, in contrast to both Google (I love Chrome, don't get me wrong) and Microsoft have a vested standards-first focus and even their "app store" that is in development is entirely standardized and HTML5/w3c based versus the Chrome Web Store.

Who cares where their money comes from? There is no doubt in my mind, whatsoever, that the only influence Google has bought is the default value for "search provider" for the search box, and the branded homepage.

Re: Bullshit

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

ugh wrote: post #28
rmoriz wrote: post #2

There was a very good talk at 28c3 that should remember everyone, that Apple and Google are not working for the public interest (as some fans still believe) Partly NSFW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh07lA9EmIc or: http://ondemand.28c3.fem-net.de/events/4676.html

Those guys are funny! “They sell a product! How evil!”

Read the comments on this page, most of the criticism here is just that. "You are the product", thus everything is bad. Google/Apple make good stuff, so they're evil, hold power and are "dangerous"

Re: Bullshit

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

rmoriz wrote: post #9
smokinn wrote: post #3

I would like to see a list of Amazon's bullshit.

"There are two kinds of companies, those that work to try to charge more and those that work to charge less. We will be the second." — Jeff Bezos "We expect all our businesses to have a positive impact on our top and bottom lines. Profitability is very important to us or we wouldn't be in this business. " — Jeff Bezos "We see our customers as invited guests to a party, and we are the hosts. It's our job every day to…

I've read/heard a lot about Bezos and I have my own (pleasant) experiences with Amazon's products and services, but I'm intrigued by your comment. Why do you feel these are "bullshit" coming from Amazon?

Re: Bullshit

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Post by starpilot »

edw519 wrote: post #102

You forgot the biggest bullshit of all, Marco. Hacker News users: I'm so mad that the government is doing ! I'm so mad that big business is doing ! I'm so mad that venture capitalists are doing ! I'm so mad that angel investors are doing ! I'm so mad that got funding! I'm so mad that language doesn't do ! I'm so mad that I can't jailbreak ! I'm so mad that I'm actually expected to pay for ! I'm so mad that more peopl…

This applies to all criticism. Far more people judge than do because it's that much easier. That doesn't pull the rug out from under their complaints though. Few claim they could do better when they say XYZ sucks; they are just saying it sucks. Media critics, political pundits, even non-developer Steve Jobs do/did little more than evaluate others' work while creating none of their own. That doesn't render invalid their criticisms though.

Re: Bullshit

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Post by KeithMajhor »

statictype wrote: post #123
KeithMajhor wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give any examples of this? You may be over-generalizing. Most of their products don't even have replaceable parts. Are you sure their reasons aren't legitimate?

RAM from Apple is certainly expensive enough that almost no one recommends it. They also tend to nickle-and-dime you on accessories like converter cables.

"Their products are deliberately engineered to make it painful to seek affordable alternatives when you need new parts."

Some of apples products have RAM directly soldered to the motherboard. This has legitimate engineering trade-offs. Of the ones that don't do this: Are there any that deliberately void compatibility with alternatives. It looks like most of their cables have alternatives too. Their stuff is expensive sure. But are they deliberately locking you into using their accessories?

Re: Bullshit

#129

Post by Bud »

statictype wrote: post #123
KeithMajhor wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give any examples of this? You may be over-generalizing. Most of their products don't even have replaceable parts. Are you sure their reasons aren't legitimate?

RAM from Apple is certainly expensive enough that almost no one recommends it. They also tend to nickle-and-dime you on accessories like converter cables.

So basically, you are griping because Apple hasn't chosen to be a mass seller of RAM upgrades who keeps large stocks and is willing to sell it for very small profit margins.

Heard of damning with faint praise? I'd say this amounts to praising with faint damn.

Re: Bullshit

#130

Post by jiaaro »

statictype wrote: post #123
KeithMajhor wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give any examples of this? You may be over-generalizing. Most of their products don't even have replaceable parts. Are you sure their reasons aren't legitimate?

RAM from Apple is certainly expensive enough that almost no one recommends it. They also tend to nickle-and-dime you on accessories like converter cables.

but the RAM is just plain old laptop RAM. You can buy it from anywhere.

Similar to the external hard drive market, anything labeled "apple compatible" costs extra, but is basically the same thing.

Find the RAM you machine needs, and search for that directly on Newegg or similar.

How to find what RAM you need: (on OSX Lion)

  1. Click the Apple (top left corner of your screen)  
  2. Click "About this Mac"  
  3. Click "More Info..."  
  4. Click the "Memory" tab
Note: there are memory upgrade instructions in this window as well :)
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