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Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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dragontamer wrote: post #272
skissane wrote: post #239

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ASD absolutely can make people care less about social norms, see for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3198313/ (“Insensitivity to social reputation in autism”) ASD can be a mixture of both not understanding and not caring. Sociopathy is all about the later without any of the former.

Elon Musk is the CEO of a major corporation. Sociopathy, is often pointed out as an advantage in that situation. You rise above others in the social ladder and punch down your competitors. And we're seeing this behavior right now as Elon Musk is utilizing his powers to try to silence his critics (Mastodon). Autism on the other hand, is a disadvantage in most leadership roles. When we consider Elon Musk's role in soci…

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Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Post by mmastrac »

skissane wrote: post #285
mmastrac wrote: post #263

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Has he really though? Apparently now he's banning journalists asking him for comments on stories. It seems to be getting worse and more arbitrary on his end. https://taylorlorenz.substack.com/p/elon-musk-banned-me-from...

Ariadna Jacobs says that Taylor Lorenz doxxed her, by asking her for her home address for “fact-checking” purposes, promising that it was not for publication, and then publishing it anyway - https://mobile.twitter.com/littlemissjacob/status/1603575149... Jacobs has been calling on Musk to ban Lorenz for doxxing her. Maybe he (or his staff) have listened. I’m sure Lorenz knows about this, so when she claims she “doesn…

That seems like a fairly big stretch for something, however bad, allegedly happening in 2020 off Twitter at all.

Besides, isn't any legal content fair game on the new Twitter?

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Post by guerrilla »

concordDance wrote: post #266
blacklight wrote: post #134

I am an admin of a small instance that most likely isn't on Twitter's block list, so my profile name and description could report the link to my Mastodon profile without getting me banned. However, even without a ban from their side, this has really been the last nail in the coffin between me and Twitter. Suspending accounts for posting links to another (open-source) social network is wrong on so many levels that I d…

Note that the vast vast vast majority of people and posts on Twitter are not fascist. Stinky shithole I'll grant, but that's been true for a decade.

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Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Post by microtherion »

dragontamer wrote: post #189
hgdfhgdhgfdh wrote: post #184

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How exactly is he radicalized? Because he suspended 7 journalists for 12-24 hours for doxxing the flight with his kid on it?

ElonJet pointed out where the flight was. The journalists simply pointed out that ElonJet was using public data from the FAA. So no, its not considered doxxing. All airplanes must be tracked, otherwise there's a chance that they'll crash into each other. If you don't like that, then maybe don't fly in a private jet all the time. Share your jet with others. Or God forbid, use a cheaper, more efficient, better-for-the-…

The flight in question, by the way, occurred on Monday: https://www.facebook.com/ElonJet

And Musk is blaming it for an incident that he claims to have occurred on Tuesday: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

An incident that was so serious that to this date, no crime report has been filed to the LAPD: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkD6LcVWIAEr-cC?format=jpg&name=... (and curiously, the reporter who first reported this fact was suspended from Twitter shortly thereafter).

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Post by beowulfey »

mmastrac wrote: post #258
beowulfey wrote: post #99

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I am a little younger than the days of decentralized social media, but I caught the tail end of it. To me, Mastodon feels like an “email address” for social media. I think a lot of people are so used to centralized platforms that it seems crazy to have it be decentralized again. I suspect as Mastodon grows, there will be more servers that become popular and will likely host the bulk of people, in much the same way th…

Technology Connections put it well https://hachyderm.io/@TechConnectify@mas.to/1095298448544650... > "Imagine you signed up for a sort of reverse-email address where your sent emails landed on a public page that anyone who knew your address could read if they wanted to and even follow you for more."

Yes! I think the reason people struggle with Mastodon is they implicitly understand that picking a server is, whether they want it to be or not, a reflection of their online persona, and they don’t know how to find or gauge servers to see if they might “fit”.

I think universities should immediately make official instances for students and faculty. At least in academic twitter circles having an official institutional home would probably help a ton with migration; it would feel like a natural place to be.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Post by guerrilla »

matwood wrote: post #213
fareesh wrote: post #77

If it becomes a popular trend for youtube channels to upload YouTube videos that are just previews with a links to Rumble videos, and the destination videos violate YouTube TOS, if YouTube created a Rumble filter to quickly address it, it would solve the problem. Would it be accurate to call this censorship or a quick and dirty solution against accounts trying to evade TOS? Framing the Mastodon filter by omitting tha…

Musk comically overpaid for Twitter and can do anything he wants with it. My (and I think most peoples) problem is the hypocrisy displayed by Musk and his sycophants. I would respect Musk a bit if he dropped the free speech charade and simply said it's his playground and he'll do whatever he wants. I don't think YouTube has ever claimed to be a public town square or a desire for free speech absolutism.

> Musk comically overpaid for Twitter and can do anything he wants with it.

No, he can't violate anti-trust (or any other) laws.

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Post by unloco »

gebruikersnaam wrote: post #86
whitepaint wrote: post #66

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You can export your data and move it to another server. If you're banned on Twitter, you're done. Also, complete failures like banning important stories, banning presidents, banning journalists etc. cannot happen on Mastodon the same way that it has happened countless of times on Twitter and will continue happening. Mastodon is obviously superior when it comes to the freedom of speech. Elon is afraid, because he know…

Note: if the server you're on is banned, you won't be able to move to a different server.

Why would your server get banned though? It's not going to happen to moderated servers. If you pick some small, weird, or insurrection aligned server, that might be an issue. Otherwise, you're just stressing out about something that won't happen.

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Post by guerrilla »

snvzz wrote: post #68
vidarh wrote: post #47

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From what I've seen, it seems to have had the opposite effect. People have gotten creative and far more have spoken about it.

Loud minority. The average user's exposure to any of that is minimum, and they're not about to abandon their twitter clout for some unknown platform.

All platforms other than Usenet started out as a minority of previous platforms... but Twitter is leaking 2-4,000 users an hour while censoring all links to said platform.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #286
beowulfey wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a little younger than the days of decentralized social media, but I caught the tail end of it. To me, Mastodon feels like an “email address” for social media. I think a lot of people are so used to centralized platforms that it seems crazy to have it be decentralized again. I suspect as Mastodon grows, there will be more servers that become popular and will likely host the bulk of people, in much the same way th…

> Mastodon feels like an “email address” for social media And it’s waiting for its AOL and Gmail.

And people who host their own email server complain all the time that Google and Microsoft centralized email and set their own (often opaque) rules on what gets delivered.

Therefore, 'Gmail for Mastodon' would seemingly just swing the pendulum back towards centralization.

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