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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the plain GPT-3, I just crafted a good prompt. In the future I might fine-tune it providing examples based on the most upvoted meanings (still have to implement the feature)
Right, interesting. The song I thought first to ask about is all along the watchtower because there’s so much disagreement on its meaning and it’s one that everyone classically reads too much into, apparently it’s sort of a nonsense reference to Bob Dylan being annoyed with his record company at the time. The AI came up with the idea that the joker is a skeptic and the thief is a believer, which I can’t find referenc…
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#53I spent a lot of time in the early 2000s on discussion forums and songmeanings.net learning about and contributing to interpretations and meanings of songs. This is an interesting concept (AI lyric interpretation) and my comment is something a bit deeper than this concept itself. Perhaps I'm showing my age, but what makes lyric interpretation so cool is that it's the intersection of two people's life experiences - th…
We often hold AI to the bar of a highest submission in a field (critique this song to the level of a music/English verse critic) but if you think about the average quality it's performing much better in that context. (Just get it to output "this song is really about drugs" and you're now up to the bar of "average Song Meanings" submission!)
Some of the misses are great too...
https://www.songtell.com/pulp/help-the-aged https://www.songtell.com/the-kinks/lola https://www.songtell.com/nirvana/frances-farmer-will-have-he... https://www.songtell.com/the-rolling-stones/brown-sugar
Still, I thought the seriousness of the description of https://www.songtell.com/boney-m/rasputin was a hilarious fail until I realised there were actual Wikipedia editors that think a song with lyrics like "Most people look at him with terror and with fear / But to Moscow chicks, he was such a lovely dear" should mostly be summarised with historical analysis
Similarly this one is funny https://www.songtell.com/village-people/y-m-c-a but not as funny as an actual human being without a trace of irony insisting it's a song with a great conservative message... https://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Essay:Greatest_Conservati...
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#54This stuff sits alongside horoscopes, tarot reading and those "Like, what kind of a girl are you like?" pop personality quizzes in Seventeen magazine. Most of it is bland grist and filler that elaborates and associates adjacent words to create a "cold reading". There is the occasional "spot-on" moment, barely above chance, that seems significant mainly because you never though of it before. And an equal crop of the a…
I tried "Take Me to Church," famously a gay protest anthem, which it totally missed: https://www.songtell.com/hozier/take-me-to-church
On the other hand...this one was totally a swing and a miss.
https://www.songtell.com/g-nther/ding-dong-song
Edit: quoted cause server is getting overloaded:
> "Ding Dong Song" by Günther is a dance-pop love song about searching for love in the night. The chorus and verses repeat the phrase "you touch my tralala," which is a playful and affectionate way of expressing affection for someone. The song's title, "Ding Dong Song," refers to the phrase that is repeated in the chorus: "Mmm, my ding ding dong". This could be interpreted as a representation of the feeling of joy and excitement that comes with finding and expressing love for someone. The song is about the longing for a connection with a special person and the joy that comes from having that connection.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
My question is: have you trained this using existing discussions about song meanings, or is it just using an existing model of general language to infer meaning?
It's the plain GPT-3, I just crafted a good prompt. In the future I might fine-tune it providing examples based on the most upvoted meanings (still have to implement the feature)
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#56 The song "Weapon of Choice" by Fatboy Slim featuring Bootsy Collins is about personal empowerment and strength. The song encourages the listener to find their own individual weapon of choice—that is, whatever resource they find to fight their inner battles and make their way in life—rather than relying on provocation and violence. The song also encourages self-reflection and awareness of the struggles of those around us, and reminds the listener to be careful in challenging situations and to watch out for those they don't know. Ultimately, the song is a passionate and empowering anthem that encourages standing up for one's own self-determination and respecting the journeys of others.
https://www.songtell.com/fatboy-slim-ft-bootsy-collins/weapo...The lyrics are notably Dune references, which the bot completely misses. Not even mentioning the worm, which is one of the most prominent words. It seems like the interpretations fall into one of a few categories:
- Very well known songs with a large corpus of direct discussion on the lyrics, and basically just summarizing what people said (Bohemian Rhapsody)
- Songs with relatively straightforward meanings and it just summarizes directly from the lyrics (insert most pop songs)
- Songs that are too obscure to have widespread discussion but slightly opaque lyrics (Weapon of Choice, Clint Eastwood by Gorillaz)
- completely fabricating from insufficient data (Around the World by Daft Punk)
Still a really cool concept!
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried "Take Me to Church," famously a gay protest anthem, which it totally missed: https://www.songtell.com/hozier/take-me-to-church
But there's no information in the song lyrics to indicate that it's anything to do with LGBT. I have heard it on the radio for years and had no idea until I saw the music video. So I'm not sure I'd say that it's "missed" - I'd probably ascribe a similar meaning going off of just the lyrics. On the other hand...this one was totally a swing and a miss. https://www.songtell.com/g-nther/ding-dong-song Edit: quoted cause…
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#58It saddens me that we're entering into an age of infinite machine-generated bullshit (and here I mean "speech produced without regard for truth"). A lot of it has negative information value, kind of like how misshapen molecules can block cell receptors. I hope somebody is working on tools to detect AI-generated content so I can give it zero attention without having to dig through it.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried "Take Me to Church," famously a gay protest anthem, which it totally missed: https://www.songtell.com/hozier/take-me-to-church
But there's no information in the song lyrics to indicate that it's anything to do with LGBT. I have heard it on the radio for years and had no idea until I saw the music video. So I'm not sure I'd say that it's "missed" - I'd probably ascribe a similar meaning going off of just the lyrics. On the other hand...this one was totally a swing and a miss. https://www.songtell.com/g-nther/ding-dong-song Edit: quoted cause…