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Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Personally Windows 2000 was the only Microsoft operating system I’ve ever liked. And I’m including Microsoft Basic in that scope as well. XP did mature into something that was decent, but the initial release of XP was just an uglier and more system hungry version of 2000. And thus XP drive me to run Linux as my primary OS. But back when 2000 was around, most other OSs were terrible. Linux was getting close but still…

windows 11 removed many of the previous keyboard shortcuts eg ms paint annoys me so much now the keyboard accessibility degraded badly in win 11 Microsofties: Please put them ALL back to match Windows10, acknowledge the heritage of the previous version, and the years of keyboard muscle memory now flushed down the drain example, let me use the arrow keys again in popup dialogs (arrow left+right keys now do nothing...…

This kind of stuff is why while work laptop is on Windows 11, I am holding to Windows 10 on private gear.

Another one, snip it doesn't work properly when using two monitors.

Doesn't anyone on Windows 11 team afford having two HDPI monitors?

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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> That was the best version Microsoft ever made No. 7 was a rollback on Vista. The best one which was not a step back but rather a step forward was Windows 2000. (Some even swear by NT4, which I feel also has some merit.)

Vista was a necessary evil on Microsoft's end. While yes some things weren't great (Aero), the main issue was always drivers. Microsoft had to switch the ways drivers work for some very necessary security reasons. This led to many hardware manufacturers just not making new drivers or slapping together the shitiest thing and hoping it worked. Took a few years but eventually everyone had new hardware (with decent compa…

Also the start of COM everywhere, after WinDev managed to win over DevDiv regarding Longhorn.

So instead of having everyone working together to make an OS where managed stacks take the main role, as Google has managed to push no matter what, regarding Android and ChromeOS, we got Longhorn's demise and its ideas being redone in COM and C++, WinDev darlings.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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For the love of god just get off of thece ancient systems pls, or run the only in airgapped and isolated network segments with application whitelisting and manual data ingress/egress controls, and everything will be fine without these silly updates. Just bury the body already, let winxp rest in peace, please

The site does agree with you in the Disclaimer at the bottom of the page: “The existence of this site shouldn’t be taken as an endorsement to continue using unsupported OSes. You should stick to a supported OS such as Windows 10 or 11 (or, try Linux?!). However, this service exists anyway in recognition that using these OSes is sometimes necessary to run legacy hardware/software, or just interesting to play around wi…

"Lemonade?" "Please!"

Indeed, I knew it was an important resource many people would need, but also that I had to make clear that getting fully patched up on XP or 7 is of course nowhere near the same as running a current OS with 10-20 more years of security innovation baked in. Although I do try to assume most of the target audience have this level of understanding about security already.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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In windows 11 they removed the ability to launch task manager by right clicking the task bar and it trips me up multiple times a day. It's actually infuriating.

It is still there for me.

They added it back iirc

https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-11-build-22621755-tas...

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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I wish ReactOS were ready by now...

Well, at least they have a somewhat limited scope to work with — there haven't been significant WinAPI updates for more then 10 years, unless you include things like modern DirectX. I do wish they worked differently though. They're trying to build the entire thing from scratch all at once, but it would've made much more sense if they took a Windows installation and started replacing Microsoft components one by one wi…

It would be a derivative work of Windows.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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I could see staying with Windows 7. That was the best version Microsoft ever made. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it stable, and it didn't have all the ad and cloud crap nailed in. You can run current Firefox, current Thunderbird, and current LibreOffice, which covers the basics. Most Windows software still works.

Groan , the luddite mentality about Windows is and has always been out of control, with so many people insisting on living on decade-old software for silly pedantic reasons like "cloud crap" that can be turned off in 5 seconds. Don't move my cheese, nothing else can possibly be better, Windows peaked 10 years ago. No, my Windows 11 system doesn't use a Microsoft Account. No, I don't get ads on Windows (web search and…

Still waiting for them to allow me to move the taskbar to the side.

(Not to mention my computer works perfectly well but since it doesn't have a TPM it can't run 11 at all)

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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> there being negative sentiment about XP I, on the other hand, clearly remember a huge wave of disgust and resentment towards XP right after it came out. Slow and bloated, with hideous, gimmicky visuals, it had been an object of all kinds of ridicule and criticisms by "sophisticated" computer users.

I think people were happy with NT4, 2000, Windows 95, and possibly Windows 98 as it had a fair number of technical improvements over Vanilla 95 (OSR2 brought in support for >2G drives for example but it wasn't until 98 you could use it properly) From memory XP was the first "phone home" windows version which required some form of online registration. I stopped using windows at home or admining it around then.

You can't be happy with 95 or 98. They were terrible. NT4 was nice though.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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I think people were happy with NT4, 2000, Windows 95, and possibly Windows 98 as it had a fair number of technical improvements over Vanilla 95 (OSR2 brought in support for >2G drives for example but it wasn't until 98 you could use it properly) From memory XP was the first "phone home" windows version which required some form of online registration. I stopped using windows at home or admining it around then.

You can't be happy with 95 or 98. They were terrible. NT4 was nice though.

95 compared with dos and 3.11 for workgroups. NT4 was great for businesses, you couldn't play Red Alert on it though.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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I could see staying with Windows 7. That was the best version Microsoft ever made. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it stable, and it didn't have all the ad and cloud crap nailed in. You can run current Firefox, current Thunderbird, and current LibreOffice, which covers the basics. Most Windows software still works.

Windows 11 is the best it’s ever been. I really don’t understand everyone’s issue. I get they try to push you towards a cloud account, but you don’t have to have one, and the ads can be much easier excised than the bloatware they used to install.

> but you don’t have to have one,

A simple Google search refutes this. Ok, if you count running some cmd magic as meaning they don't require you to have a Microsoft account, we're never going to agree. For Joe Bloggs, a Microsoft account is required and there is no way around it.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Un-fucking Windows 10 is still easier than Linux where the answers to half of my problems are "You fool, if you wanted to use more than two mouse buttons you should have used Slippery Weasel 7. Trash your install and start over with a better distro. By the way Slippery Weasel 7 doesn't support changing your screen brightness."

I have a 16-button mouse (one of those gaming ones with basically a numpad near the thumb), works out of the box. Same with a variety of dodgy Bluetooth chinesium junk, a drawing tablet, a VR headset... Maybe 10 years ago I had an issue with a 3G modem? Put short, I cannot corroborate your experience at all. (I have been on and off Linux the last 10 years due to gaming, but it seems I will be able to stay this time,…

> Put short, I cannot corroborate your experience at all.

Put short, you transpose your success to the whole universe.

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