I could see staying with Windows 7. That was the best version Microsoft ever made. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it stable, and it didn't have all the ad and cloud crap nailed in. You can run current Firefox, current Thunderbird, and current LibreOffice, which covers the basics. Most Windows software still works.
Windows 11 is the best it’s ever been. I really don’t understand everyone’s issue. I get they try to push you towards a cloud account, but you don’t have to have one, and the ads can be much easier excised than the bloatware they used to install.
Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000
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Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000
#162I could see staying with Windows 7. That was the best version Microsoft ever made. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it stable, and it didn't have all the ad and cloud crap nailed in. You can run current Firefox, current Thunderbird, and current LibreOffice, which covers the basics. Most Windows software still works.
Groan , the luddite mentality about Windows is and has always been out of control, with so many people insisting on living on decade-old software for silly pedantic reasons like "cloud crap" that can be turned off in 5 seconds. Don't move my cheese, nothing else can possibly be better, Windows peaked 10 years ago. No, my Windows 11 system doesn't use a Microsoft Account. No, I don't get ads on Windows (web search and…
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The general sentiment for a very long time in my circles was along the lines of "Windows 2000 is the best Windows".
Everyone around me used XP for a very long time and remembers it very well, but 2000 is largely forgotten.
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Give me a new Windows that isn't dripping with contempt for the user.
Microsoft Linux doesn't exist yet, they just have a cheap imitation running on top of Windows. I recommend switching to the real thing.
Also
>CBL-Mariner (in which CBL stands for Common Base Linux)[3] is a free and open-source Linux distribution that Microsoft has developed. It is the base container OS for Microsoft Azure services[4][5] and the graphical component of WSL
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Groan , the luddite mentality about Windows is and has always been out of control, with so many people insisting on living on decade-old software for silly pedantic reasons like "cloud crap" that can be turned off in 5 seconds. Don't move my cheese, nothing else can possibly be better, Windows peaked 10 years ago. No, my Windows 11 system doesn't use a Microsoft Account. No, I don't get ads on Windows (web search and…
In windows 11 they removed the ability to launch task manager by right clicking the task bar and it trips me up multiple times a day. It's actually infuriating.
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Groan , the luddite mentality about Windows is and has always been out of control, with so many people insisting on living on decade-old software for silly pedantic reasons like "cloud crap" that can be turned off in 5 seconds. Don't move my cheese, nothing else can possibly be better, Windows peaked 10 years ago. No, my Windows 11 system doesn't use a Microsoft Account. No, I don't get ads on Windows (web search and…
I'm regularly amazed at how many people there are on HN that tell on themselves by complaining about ads in Windows. It's like complaining that IKEA furniture is difficult to assemble. Ironically, I haven't made the jump to 11 yet just because my decade old Dell has an i7 that's been remarkably resilient for the kind of work I do on it. My favorite thing about Windows is the backwards compatibility. I had a 2005 era…
Maybe it's just me, but it gives me the feeling that the OS is actively working against me. I'm still having some configuration to do on Linux (hybrid graphics are fun and so is audio for my setup), but it's something caused by having so many options and limited time of contributors. On Windows, this is because the OS is trying to extract as much money as possible from me and that kind of adversarial relationship is not what I want to have with software that manages all of my data.
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Win2K was the only version of Windows I ever ran as a daily driver. I had access to Macs from an early age (since System 7 and through all the processor architecture transitions, except I haven’t gotten an M-series yet), but sold my Mac and couldn’t afford a replacement for some time around the XP transition. My completely unqualified ranking… - 2k: excellent, top Windows - XP: fine, if you turn off all the UI change…
It feels unfair to lump in 3.x with 98, and you've skipped the (at the time groundbreaking) 95!
I agree 95 was a huge step relatively, but agree it was ~on par with my preferred Mac contemporary. Granted it does deserve mention for licensing music by Brian Eno… and a button licensed by another famous musician.
Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000
#168I could see staying with Windows 7. That was the best version Microsoft ever made. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it stable, and it didn't have all the ad and cloud crap nailed in. You can run current Firefox, current Thunderbird, and current LibreOffice, which covers the basics. Most Windows software still works.
XP did mature into something that was decent, but the initial release of XP was just an uglier and more system hungry version of 2000. And thus XP drive me to run Linux as my primary OS.
But back when 2000 was around, most other OSs were terrible. Linux was getting close but still had a lot of rough edges. BeOS was awesome but you could tell it was a dying company. Apple were struggling too: MacOS 9 was less stable than Windows 9x (and that’s saying something!) and OS X took a couple of releases to really take off. Atari were dead. Amiga was basically only ram by enthusiasts. Yet Windows 2000 arrived and it felt genuinely like a next generation OS for its time.
Windows 2000 took NT4 and focused on bettering the stuff that didn’t work rather than breaking the stuff that did. Often little changes like adding short cut keys to Notepad.exe. Whereas every version of Windows since has done far too much GUI overhaul (and always to the detriment of UX in my personal opinion) while doing very little to improve my core complaints with the OS.
I get this is going to be my subjective opinion, just like Windows 7 is yours. But I did wasn’t to share a counterpoint to the praise of Windows 7.
Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000
#169I could see staying with Windows 7. That was the best version Microsoft ever made. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it stable, and it didn't have all the ad and cloud crap nailed in. You can run current Firefox, current Thunderbird, and current LibreOffice, which covers the basics. Most Windows software still works.
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Technical debt, requiring someone to maintain it.
But then they notice they cant build a dark mode and end up reinventing it all poorly. I've come to the conclusion that 99% of the time "technical debt" particularly in old stable code that hasn't been touched in years is translation for "Its complex and I don't understand it". Particularly when asked to add what seems like a trivial feature. SOS as always, the new guy knows better than the old one, but by time time…