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Re: A Linux Evening

#291

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You are free to comment on the question raised, instead of a dismissive empty ad-hom.

I wouldn't exactly call the comment you're replying to an ad hominem attack.

Why not? You don’t think it changes the topic from being about the content of the comment (open source drivers) to being about the person who wrote the comment (what they should and shouldn’t be permitted to say based on how much they paid or didn’t pay)?

Re: A Linux Evening

#292

This is prototypical of the standard Linux experience, but I'd like to remark on just how much less common this sort of thing is. Modern Linux and modern Linux distributions have a much larger "just work" factor and it's getting better every year in my experience. Slowly and asymptotically, but it is improvement. This was driven home recently by my experience switching to NixOS. NixOS is brilliant in many ways, but b…

I too am 100% burnt from a quarter of a century of random "Linux evenings". I've concluded that GNU Linux will always be a great CLI server OS, however those past 25 years has soured me into calling the Linux Desktop a toy. I'm 100% done investing my time solving issues just like this one. The biggest lesson I've learned is to simply not trust it to be a daily driver.

Really? I Haven't had a show stopping issue with linux for over a decade.

Re: A Linux Evening

#293

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1 - I wonder what OS do you use. 2 - Have you actually tried Linux?

I have. It's still inferior to Windows and it's trying to be a discount version of MacOS. And it's doing a bad job at it.

I don't know about that. I use xmonad on linux and it completely dominates anything windows could ever try to bring to the table.

Re: A Linux Evening

#294

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Where did AnIdiotOnTheNet's comment include not being a developer, not being patient, or thinking their time is more valuable than others? Why is it so much more important to put someone in their place and win internet points with ad-homs in the "community" which supposedly values freedom?

"Whats the point in ${enormous amount of work others did for me for free} ..." is never a polite move. Neither is your second sentence. You two are just rude. No amount of freedom forces other people to bear with that. And if you think its not rude, still, the world is large enough to avoid each other.

> ""Whats the point in ${enormous amount of work others did for me for free} ...""

That is the least charitable interpretation of it, and I think not at all what it actually says.A much better reading of it is, paraphrased:

"The PCI-e patch is nice, but it would be a dealbreaker waiting on driver support."

"The drivers are open source and checked into the same tree, so there's no dealbreaker there in waiting for vendors or coordinating with third party organisations and their release schedules {and that's the point of desiring open source drivers, so the system isn't hobbled by binary blob drivers and vendor release schedules}".

Re: A Linux Evening

#295

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"Whats the point in ${enormous amount of work others did for me for free} ..." is never a polite move. Neither is your second sentence. You two are just rude. No amount of freedom forces other people to bear with that. And if you think its not rude, still, the world is large enough to avoid each other.

> " "Whats the point in ${enormous amount of work others did for me for free} ..." " That is the least charitable interpretation of it, and I think not at all what it actually says.A much better reading of it is, paraphrased: "The PCI-e patch is nice, but it would be a dealbreaker waiting on driver support." "The drivers are open source and checked into the same tree, so there's no dealbreaker there in waiting for ve…

> dealbreaker

Very poor choice of words. If the deal is bad, request a refund!

I understand what you are trying to say, but i think that's just entitlement.

Just accept that, as a non-contributing OSS user, you have zero leverage over which features other people pour their energy into. If you do, that's a charitable exception and happens at the generosity of the one doing the work for you.

Edit: Let me quote the licensing terms that you agreed to and gave you permission to use the linux kernel at all:

    This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
    GNU General Public License for more details.

Re: A Linux Evening

#296

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I wouldn't exactly call the comment you're replying to an ad hominem attack.

Why not? You don’t think it changes the topic from being about the content of the comment (open source drivers) to being about the person who wrote the comment (what they should and shouldn’t be permitted to say based on how much they paid or didn’t pay)?

If the problem lies in the entitlement of a person, an appropriate response is going to be an ad hominem, and rightfully so.

Re: A Linux Evening

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I've been trying for a week now to get Windows to properly suspend and stay suspended on a Thinkpad X1. Even after changing the BIOS to "Linux" mode (S3 Sleep), fiddling with drivers and the registry, and issuing powercfg commands it's still flaky. The function keys to change audio settings also work poorly sometimes. These are the kinds of issues we used to have when trying to bring up Linux on a laptop. But now it'…

I had a major troubles with linux suspend on a 2021 T14 - not a cheap system - and did not get past them. Moved to x1, no problems. Colleague has the T14, still running windows.

Re: A Linux Evening

#298
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Hi folks. :) I'm so glad that my hit-and-run post has been so useful. After seeing Fabien's blog post I did a quick search and it turns out that the solution has spread fairly broadly to other forums. My choice of 0x33 was arbitrary so makes a nice canary for seeing it spread out. I'm thrilled. Sharing experiences and solutions is so essential to learning. I've benefited enormously from the generosity of open source…

> dkozel and your kind, whoever you are, wherever you are, and whatever you are doing right now, you are legend.

Both of you are :-)

Heart=warmed. Happy holidays to both of you!

Re: A Linux Evening

#299

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1 - I wonder what OS do you use. 2 - Have you actually tried Linux?

I have. It's still inferior to Windows and it's trying to be a discount version of MacOS. And it's doing a bad job at it.

So it would seem you haven't used Linux recently if you consider it inferior to Windows.

Re: A Linux Evening

#300
> “The author, dkozel, never came back to answer. I imagine they typed the solution on a 40% keyboard featuring unmarked keys and then rolled into the sunset on a Segway for which they had compiled the kernel themselves.”

Haven’t laughed that hard in a while.

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