John Carmack Leaves Meta

Post by agumonkey » Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 5:36 AM UTC

klabb3 wrote: post #296

Redoubts wrote: post #142

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> This was admittedly self-inflicted – I could have moved to Menlo Park after the Oculus acquisition and tried to wage battles with generations of leadership, but I was busy programming, and I assumed I would hate it, be bad at it, and probably lose anyway.

I interpret this as strong circumstantial evidence that companies who start out as engineering centric and claims to be meritocratic eventually deteriorate into good ole nepotistic power play and a sea of bureaucracy. It’s quite entertaining to observe even John Carmack go through this very relatable frustration.

Post by roland35 » Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 5:39 AM UTC

kentm wrote: post #141

arcticbull wrote: post #79

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Their counter-argument is that leaf services like that without measurable impact aren't things the company should be investing in and it is up to the individual to recognize that and re-allocate themselves onto something that's actually aligned with the company's goals. You simply working on a project isn't useful to a company, what's useful is working on the right project. You get promoted and compensated more if yo…

This is a pretty condescending post that assumes quite a lot about my work. > You simply working on a project isn't useful to a company, what's useful is working on the right project. No, my project was measurably useful to the company. It wasn't useful for engineers , but it was useful for internal, non technical users. I helped build a team from scratch and launch a product with high internal user satisfaction. But…

Post by polotics » Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 5:42 AM UTC

jjtheblunt wrote: post #293

Arjuna wrote: post #111

”It has been a struggle for me. I have a voice at the highest levels here, so it feels like I should be able to move things, but I'm evidently not persuasive enough. A good fraction of the things I complain about eventually turn my way after a year or two passes and evidence piles up, but I have never been able to kill stupid things before they cause damage, or set a direction and have a team actually stick to it. I…

Perhaps he hated bureaucrats meddling with engineering and user experience. Maybe he’s condescending in a team of bright people, and sees the world as him and then everyone lesser? It’s hard to say what blend of reasons, other than what he explains.

Post by unity1001 » Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 5:46 AM UTC

solardev wrote: post #221

dmix wrote: post #189

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Is this a classic middle management malaise where everyone gets paid so well they don’t want to stir the pot? The bureaucracy and protection of today’s money cows which only clouds them from seeing tomorrow’s cows that will rescue them from certain obscurity? The Clayton M Christensen solution to big companies ignoring obvious problems is to have isolated small teams “infrapreneurship” who aren’t under the pressures…

Is that how Google ended up with eight chat apps while Search gets worse and worse every year?

Post by 082349872349872 » Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 5:56 AM UTC

BurningFrog wrote: post #205

throwaway019254 wrote: post #133

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You mean politics.

That's what we who aren't good at that call it :)

    I exert influence
    You align strategic competences
    They play politics