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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by hackerman123469 »

TrickyRick wrote: post #905
wendyshu wrote: post #893

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33998145

It's possible to do great things and still be a terrible person. I know some people might find it hard to believe but it's also possible for people to change as they age/get richer/get more powerful/get less powerful/get poorer etc. Elon 10 years ago isn't Elon today.

Yeah, ex. Pablo Escobar bombed a flight with hundreds of people on it, killed thousands of police officers and many more civilians etc.

BUT he also built churches and schools in the poor neighborhood he grew up in.

So he did some really terrible things and was overall a terrible person, BUT he also did some really good things.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by jasmer »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #988
jasmer wrote: post #985

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Hundreds of millions of people use it. That something happens to be under some control of private interests, doesn't make it necessarily a private thing. To the extent that something is in the commons, well it's public. At least newsworthy and much more. The Federal Reserve is privately owned but we don't treat it like some rando llc.

> be under some control of private interests, doesn't make it necessarily a private thing. It does actually, by definition.

Your are confusing 'legal ownership of assets' with control, influence and power.

It's difficult because the former perspective is more formal than the later, but really, it's not at all.

In 1900 if your home was burning down, the firemen would only come if you paid a specific firehouse for insurance. If they were fighting a different fire, or if you didn't pay - then your place burns down. Even if all the firefighters are doing nothing. And your house will probably cause a bunch of other fires, creating viral destruction.

Obviously this is completely stupid. So we socialized it, and even with 'government inefficiencies' it still has better outcomes than the former scenario.

TikTok is a 'private company' until we decide it's not.

There are externalizes in everything.

If you want multi-generational asset permanence, you can stick to property ownership.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by jonny_eh »

bitshiftfaced wrote: post #59
jonny_eh wrote: post #15

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I honestly find it impossible for anyone to defend this self-serving behaviour.

Seems to me that the reputational damage comes from the amount of money these flights cost and their carbon footprint. That part would be difficult to defend someone wanting to hide. The information is out there already, but this practice goes a step further by shining a spotlight on a person (and their children's) locations. People would have a different attitude if this guy's niche was live tweeting female celebrit…

> live tweeting female celebrity's locations

Pointing out which city (or even airport) someone is in hardly seems like much of a danger.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by Zanneth »

firsttimebigboy wrote: post #644
kybernetyk wrote: post #620

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Don't know. If someone threatened my little kid I'd probably sh*t on moral doxxing reservations, too.

His children are only tools for him. He only cares about them as long as they provide him value.

This is a truly horrible thing to say about another human being.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by filoleg »

_djo_ wrote: post #958
ops wrote: post #423

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It's easy if the plane is flying into a small airport with very little traffic (like SMO)

In that case you can just camp outside it and wait for his plane to land, which a determined stalker would do.

That's pretty much what happened[0] (given the PIA situation with changing plane numbers mentioned elsewhere in the thread), with the only difference that the person camping out and watching out for the plane didn't do the stalking of the car ride afterwards themselves. They just reported the data on the flight landing, it got publicly updated on the tracker, and then another person (who actually approached the car later, according to Elon's claim) stalked them using the info posted on the tracker.

[0]. Assuming the allegations about it happening are true.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by filoleg »

evan_ wrote: post #590
anigbrowl wrote: post #571

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I find it odd that his son would be traveling in a car with no dashcam and the only video from the whole incident is some guy sitting in the driver's seat of another car looking very relaxed. Also that there's no mention so far of any police involvement, as I'm fairly sure the LAPD would take a violent incident report by professional bodyguards as something worth looking into.

Do teslas have dashcam functionality? If they don’t I bet they will soon.

They added them in a software update at some point in 2019. It gets recorded to a usb drive that you keep attached. Any drive works, I personally prefer an external ssd.

When you press the record button, it dumps the past 10 mins of video from 4 external cameras onto the drive. When the car is fully stopped, you can either watch the video on the screen inside the car or unplug the drive and watch it on your laptop or on any other device that can read from usb/external drives.

There is also an automatic (aka sentry) mode that triggers dumping a video by any nearby action, but that's only when the car is parked and left unattended.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by _djo_ »

filoleg wrote: post #995
_djo_ wrote: post #958

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In that case you can just camp outside it and wait for his plane to land, which a determined stalker would do.

That's pretty much what happened[0] (given the PIA situation with changing plane numbers mentioned elsewhere in the thread), with the only difference that the person camping out and watching out for the plane didn't do the stalking of the car ride afterwards themselves. They just reported the data on the flight landing, it got publicly updated on the tracker, and then another person (who actually approached the car l…

Nope. As previously stated many times in this and the other discussions, the aircraft is not part of PIA and the accurate hex code is reported on the FAA site.

ElonJet didn’t tweet anything on the day this incident occurred, so that part is false too.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by JetSpiegel »

baby wrote: post #633
SXX wrote: post #21

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I wonder how does Elon expect any journalist to follow these rules? Big chunk of information from press is reporting on public figures location and sometimes this include reporting in real time.

Important question: does journalism need to be live information?

Journalism without live information is just History.

The point is to be able to affect outcomes.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by baby »

JetSpiegel wrote: post #998
baby wrote: post #633

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Important question: does journalism need to be live information?

Journalism without live information is just History. The point is to be able to affect outcomes.

I mean, I have a hard time finding issues with 24h or 7 days delayed journalism for small news. If you’re covering war, or the government, or something of public utility I can understand a live coverage tho

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by additall »

chinathrow wrote: post #989
additall wrote: post #874

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I'm not sure "free speech" equals "data is public", and I'm not sure that the flight tracking data at least for private jets should be made public at all. Or at least I don't see a difference between private cars location being vs private jet location data being released.

Now go and read up on what ADS-B is and does and you'll discover why the data is available.

If a certain law or policy instructs you to jump off the roof immediately, would you necessarily do so? Also, technical means (ads-b) and regulations around accessing the data are two different things, no?

Also, why do you have to show that directive agressive tone to me? I didn't do anything bad to you.

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