Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by 93po » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 12:31 AM UTC

theCrowing wrote: post #761

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

After he lied about his first kid dying in his arms I am not exactly sure if I believe him without receipts.

* was accused by an ex wife of lying about it. The same ex wife that notoriously does anything for media attention, writes online incessantly about her divorce with Elon, who's made multiple easily disproven lies, has publicly smeared him for financial gain during divorce proceedings, and had her own divorce judge not agree with the validity of any of her claims.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by hndamien » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 12:50 AM UTC

I don't quite understand why everybody is ok with doxxing being something we should avoid because of the harm it can cause, yet everybody seems to be "hey what about free speech" when publishing peoples live locations like it isn't a safety issue.

There are instagrammers that were robbed due to promoting theur live locations which they no longer do. Why the weird double standard from an honest attempt to let people speak freely, yet also preserve people's safety (even if it is a self interest)?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by fundad » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 1:51 AM UTC

salawat wrote: post #961

fundad wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One single car leaves the entire airport? Stalker must have paid someone for the plate number.

Welp, guess we better set up a license plate anonymization program... Law enforcement says NO! In the distance Guess that's that. Welcome to being a trackable number Elon. Remember, it's all in the public interest. Also, It's funny how billionaire's pander to this type of surveillance in the Board Room, but suddenly start trying to throw off the bit/yoke when it starts to inconvenience them personally once somebody i…

He owns car dealerships, why is he keeping a car long enough to require license plates? Like content moderation, his predecessors already figured that out.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by tomcam » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 2:22 AM UTC

vibrio wrote: post #828

tomcam wrote: post #809

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For example, twitter’s former head of trust and safety had to leave his home recently because Musk told his fawning followers that he was a pedophile. Uh no. He simply posted a screenshot from the guy’s thesis.

Ironically, digging up out-of-context history to disparage someone sounds like a “cancel culture” tactic.

What's out of context?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by jasmer » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 2:23 AM UTC

perryizgr8 wrote: post #345

Why is this topic dominating HN?? It's just a private website enforcing its own made up rules. They can do whatever they like, ban whoever they don't like. If you have a problem with it make your own Twitter.

Hundreds of millions of people use it. That something happens to be under some control of private interests, doesn't make it necessarily a private thing.

To the extent that something is in the commons, well it's public. At least newsworthy and much more.

The Federal Reserve is privately owned but we don't treat it like some rando llc.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 2:43 AM UTC

locallost wrote: post #725

Elon has lost the plot. He will end up disliked or hated by all sides -- he's alienated the left by embracing right wing narratives, and he will alienate the right by being wishy washy on things like free speech. They might rationalize him as the lesser evil, but deep down they will turn on him, and it will eventually surface. And it's obvious to everybody that the actual complaint was never about the lack of free sp…

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by RavingGoat » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 3:52 AM UTC

hndamien wrote: post #982

I don't quite understand why everybody is ok with doxxing being something we should avoid because of the harm it can cause, yet everybody seems to be "hey what about free speech" when publishing peoples live locations like it isn't a safety issue. There are instagrammers that were robbed due to promoting theur live locations which they no longer do. Why the weird double standard from an honest attempt to let people s…

LibsofTikTok are doing it but not getting banned. My problem with Elon's decision is he's only banning people providing his information. He doesn't care about anyone else just himself.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by perryizgr8 » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 4:16 AM UTC

jasmer wrote: post #985

perryizgr8 wrote: post #345

Why is this topic dominating HN?? It's just a private website enforcing its own made up rules. They can do whatever they like, ban whoever they don't like. If you have a problem with it make your own Twitter.

Hundreds of millions of people use it. That something happens to be under some control of private interests, doesn't make it necessarily a private thing. To the extent that something is in the commons, well it's public. At least newsworthy and much more. The Federal Reserve is privately owned but we don't treat it like some rando llc.

> be under some control of private interests, doesn't make it necessarily a private thing.

It does actually, by definition.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by chinathrow » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 5:43 AM UTC

additall wrote: post #874

chinathrow wrote: post #702

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's surprising how so many people have no idea how ADS-B out works. The data is public.

I'm not sure "free speech" equals "data is public", and I'm not sure that the flight tracking data at least for private jets should be made public at all. Or at least I don't see a difference between private cars location being vs private jet location data being released.

Now go and read up on what ADS-B is and does and you'll discover why the data is available.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by hndamien » Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 9:03 AM UTC

RavingGoat wrote: post #987

hndamien wrote: post #982

I don't quite understand why everybody is ok with doxxing being something we should avoid because of the harm it can cause, yet everybody seems to be "hey what about free speech" when publishing peoples live locations like it isn't a safety issue. There are instagrammers that were robbed due to promoting theur live locations which they no longer do. Why the weird double standard from an honest attempt to let people s…

LibsofTikTok are doing it but not getting banned. My problem with Elon's decision is he's only banning people providing his information. He doesn't care about anyone else just himself.

You should probably reference that claim of doxing live location.