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There's probably a portion of the TSLA slide that can be chalked up to this, too. So more than $45b, though how much more is anyone's guess.
https://openargs.com/oa645-we-badly-underestimated-just-how-... This is very good podcast about this exact topic.
Musk on November 6th: My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15894149585086914...
Can you argument this point further or is it enough to imagine it with a trollface meme?
Me personally, I argue that it was an exaggerated policy position to take. Under no circumstances should menacing, harassment, threats to personal safety be tolerated.
It’s definitely a good thing that Musk backtracked on this, as the previous policy would have been used to cover some outrageous behavior, such as invading the personal space of LGBTQ accounts, outing them at work, or even menacingly posting selfies in their neighborhood.
There are limits to speech, free speech is meant within the context of public sphere debate and politics.
This tit-for-tat confrontation has to be suppresses, or the verbal rioting that is online trolling will again spillover into IRL.
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Completely fair banning them over policy violation. But Elon promised 'absolute' free speech when he took over? No one would be complaining about these bans if not for the hypocrisy. I have never seen this two face stand. Elon is now understanding the risk and fallacy of absolute free speech when some rando stalked his family. But glossed over when others shouted at the same.
Apples and oranges. I think the doxxing policy makes sense. It's absolutely not okay posting people's real-time locations, especially for famous figures who are already targets. I don't hear anybody criticizing the policy. Because it is right. Instead people are attacking Elon's past promise, as it is the only thing they can attack. So maybe "absolute" free speech is not a very good idea after all. What matters is go…
Elon backtracking from the absolute free speech is fair to be mocked and laughed at as 'I said so'.
Nobody from that camp was lifting a finger when "conspiracy theorists" were being banned from Twitter. People were saying that "Twitter was a private company who could ban whoever it wanted".
Here is a past thread of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31154200
I don't like seeing anyone banned by any social media company. This is a fail by Elon considering his previous absolutist stance. I'd rather shine the light on both stupid and brilliant and let people decide on their own what they'd like to consume in terms of information and entertainment. The VC Elite should raise a fund, hire former Twitter employees, and mount a competitive alternative. They could "Build a better…
I believe https://post.news/ is the attempt to do this (though mostly not with past Twitter employees). Basically the same as Twitter but with a little more emphasis on publishers. Seems fine, though occasionally it gets a little sluggish, and the content skews towards general popular interest without a big tech community yet.
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The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.
I want free speech, hence I think Elon is a tremendous hypocrite for enacting this policy. Once you start deciding whether or not things are 'safe' to say you will end up in the exact situation Jack, et al. were in when they were censoring just with different biases. He doesn't seem to understand that and is doomed to repeat their mistakes. There is some irony now seeing those that didn't believe the banning of accou…
No, the irony is not that the site under both owners is trying to remove bad/harmful content (just defining it differently).
The irony is that Musk thought he wasn’t going to have to do it at all: “absolute free speech”, “public square”, “comedy is legal”, etc.
One of the banned journalists went on Mastodon and said (paraphrasing): “It’s his site and he can ban whoever he wants”
And to be fair, under both owners, accounts were banned for violating ToS policies. The policies are just different, but they’re still the rules you agree to when you use the site.
I just don’t think anyone thought “free speech” meant no parodying, no republishing public FAA info, etc.
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perhaps the ultimate irony will be that people will ditch Twitter for something like Mastoden. Elon jet is alive and well over there. https://mastodon.social/@elonjet
yeah, not gonna happen. mastodon is not normie-friendly enough for that to happen.
There are some legitimate things to pick on Musk for. This isn't one of them.
Musk on November 6th: My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15894149585086914...
That was the case until a stalker got close to his toddler. That clearly shook him and changed his mind. Now the account will come back with a delay. He also changed his mind on free speech absolutism. He came around to the "freedom of speech is not freedom of reach" argument.
I don't like seeing anyone banned by any social media company. This is a fail by Elon considering his previous absolutist stance. I'd rather shine the light on both stupid and brilliant and let people decide on their own what they'd like to consume in terms of information and entertainment. The VC Elite should raise a fund, hire former Twitter employees, and mount a competitive alternative. They could "Build a better…
I believe https://post.news/ is the attempt to do this (though mostly not with past Twitter employees). Basically the same as Twitter but with a little more emphasis on publishers. Seems fine, though occasionally it gets a little sluggish, and the content skews towards general popular interest without a big tech community yet.