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Re: Atom was archived today

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post #70

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Oh, no, those won't be silent when using anything electron

I haven’t heard the fan of my M1 laptop since this summer, and I have multiple electron apps almost always running. Now, if I move the mouse a bit fast on my i9 laptop, it’s time for hairdryer mode. I think the silence depends more on the hardware than the software.

Tech has caught up! We need more bloat, web devs!

Re: Atom was archived today

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Related:

Atom editor is not dead, but is now Pulsar (viva OSS) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33465854 - Nov 2022 (9 comments)

To Favor Microsoft VS Code, Microsoft's GitHub Is Killing GitHub's Atom Editor - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31717196 - June 2022 (19 comments)

Ask HN: Why did Atom Text Editor failed? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30733674 - March 2022 (8 comments)

Atom: Editor window startup is slow - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21740568 - Dec 2019 (11 comments)

Atom editor still phones home prior to consent dialog - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21642391 - Nov 2019 (108 comments)

Ask HN: What Happened to GitHub's Atom? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21142934 - Oct 2019 (46 comments)

Future of GitHub's Atom Editor - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258419 - June 2018 (13 comments)

Sublime vs. Atom – who will win the editor's war? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11561865 - April 2016 (13 comments)

Atom text editor 1.7.0 released - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11492203 - April 2016 (139 comments)

How to make the Atom editor transparent - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10916760 - Jan 2016 (55 comments)

Atom text editor 1.4 released - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10900355 - Jan 2016 (198 comments)

GitHub's Atom Switches from the Open Code of Conduct to the Contributor Convent - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10043990 - Aug 2015 (57 comments)

Atom Editor for Sublime Text Users - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9872614 - July 2015 (54 comments)

Atom now opens files larger than 2MB - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9690653 - June 2015 (59 comments)

Ask HN: Why was Atom (text editor) written in JavaScript? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9257087 - March 2015 (6 comments)

“Implement text editor DOM updates manually instead of via React” - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9117028 - Feb 2015 (220 comments)

Atom Editor or Sublime Text – which one to pick? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9008352 - Feb 2015 (65 comments)

Atom now using Io.js - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8991853 - Feb 2015 (130 comments)

Sublime VS. Atom: Will GitHub's Text Editor Beat the Standing Champion? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8945685 - Jan 2015 (70 comments)

Atom Shell: Cross-platform desktop application shell - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8793489 - Dec 2014 (59 comments)

Atom: Editor window startup is slow - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8393648 - Oct 2014 (76 comments)

Ask HN: Are you using Atom Editor? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7547813 - April 2014 (16 comments)

Free invites to Atom, GitHub's new text editor - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7376063 - March 2014 (170 comments)

Download Atom editor without an invite - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7328592 - March 2014 (114 comments)

GitHub's new text editor leaked on Twitter - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7302941 - Feb 2014 (249 comments)

Others?

Re: Atom was archived today

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post #11
post #7

Sad to see this go. I was an early adopter of Atom, and I wrote two extensions for it, one of which while it was still in beta. The Atom developers made some technology choices that in retrospect were ill-advised, CoffeeScript being the worst of them and splitting everything into dozens of packages a close second. They tried to backpedal on both of these later on, but by that time VSCode, with its far superior engine…

People hate on electron, but it's a pretty amazing piece of tech if you ask me. I can turn a browser game into a steam game with basically no effort which is nice because browsers change over time and electron helps you get a working offline snapshot of something you created.

There was node-webkit (nowadays called nw.js) that predate electron by quite some times. I remember know about it precisely because I was playing games that was developed with it.

Re: Atom was archived today

#104
post #75
post #32

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Atom predated the LSP and leaned heavily into customizations with all the plugins running inside the UI thread (more like a traditional web page and 3p scripts). At the time they viewed the extreme customization support as a feature, and there was a thriving ecosystem of folks making plugins. That architecture has a major flaw though. A default install was fast, but a real configuration with all the plugins ended up…

VSCode is one of the greatest pieces of engineering of our time. It's really only when you compare it with Atom that you realize how great it is. Atom was built by incredibly smart people, who had full control over the platform and several years of head start, and they were still out-engineered by the VSCode team at every turn. VSCode did almost everything right: The choice of TypeScript as the base language (with wh…

I'd say compilers are the greatest productivity tool. Have you tried to program in assembly? it's doable, but there's a reason we work in higher languages most of the time.

Re: Atom was archived today

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post #11

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People hate on electron, but it's a pretty amazing piece of tech if you ask me. I can turn a browser game into a steam game with basically no effort which is nice because browsers change over time and electron helps you get a working offline snapshot of something you created.

> People hate on electron, but it's a pretty amazing piece of tech if you ask me. It really does come down to how people build on top of it. I tried opening a 2gb log file in Atom and it took like 10 minutes before crashing. VSCode on the other hand, while a bit slow, opened it and I could search quickly and scroll it without any issue at all. That was what caused me to switch.

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Re: Atom was archived today

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"VSCode is the greatest productivity tool in the history of software engineering" in a world where vi and emacs exist seems like a bit of an exaggeration, and I'm not even a fan of either (VS Code is my daily driver; I like my GUI editors and I like them to behave like normal apps on the platform I'm running).

You can run vim and emacs in a gui app. I run neovim in neovide which imo is the best experience for vim these days. Vim's builtin terminal is good enough now that you can ditch running it inside tmux/terminal.

Vim and emacs do not adhere to platform conventions anywhere, unless your platform happens to be "emacs".

Re: Atom was archived today

#107
post #98

Sad to see, Atom has been my go to editor for the last years. What would you recommend as alternative for the average Ruby / Rails developer? I am looking at Panic Nova, VSCode, Sublime Text and others.

Take a look at Jetbrains‘ RubyMine. It takes development to a new level; You won’t want to go back. It understands your code so well, it’s magical. It can rename stuff anywhere it’s referenced, for example, which is way superior to search/replace in a directory (because you won’t replace unrelated items). It has a Sequelace built in, but with support for practically any database. It can perform debugging inside the editor. It has support for all relevant tooling. It handles deployment. And more.

Not related, just a fan :)

Re: Atom was archived today

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post #96
post #32

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Atom predated the LSP and leaned heavily into customizations with all the plugins running inside the UI thread (more like a traditional web page and 3p scripts). At the time they viewed the extreme customization support as a feature, and there was a thriving ecosystem of folks making plugins. That architecture has a major flaw though. A default install was fast, but a real configuration with all the plugins ended up…

Predated VSCode version of LSP, the idea is at least as old as Lucid Emacs. > A central server uses an Objectstore database to tightly integrate compiler(Lucid C++ Compiler), editor(emacs), debugger(gdb), and browsers https://www.desy.de/user/projects/C++/products/lucid.html

Which demonstrates once again that doing something right is far more important than doing it first.

Re: Atom was archived today

#109
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VSCode is one of the greatest pieces of engineering of our time. It's really only when you compare it with Atom that you realize how great it is. Atom was built by incredibly smart people, who had full control over the platform and several years of head start, and they were still out-engineered by the VSCode team at every turn. VSCode did almost everything right: The choice of TypeScript as the base language (with wh…

"VSCode is the greatest productivity tool in the history of software engineering" in a world where vi and emacs exist seems like a bit of an exaggeration, and I'm not even a fan of either (VS Code is my daily driver; I like my GUI editors and I like them to behave like normal apps on the platform I'm running).

How many daily users do vim and emacs have? How many daily users does VSCode have?

Re: Atom was archived today

#110
post #18
post #11

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People hate on electron, but it's a pretty amazing piece of tech if you ask me. I can turn a browser game into a steam game with basically no effort which is nice because browsers change over time and electron helps you get a working offline snapshot of something you created.

Electron is essentially an operating system that runs on every operating system, so you can target just a single OS and your application works everywhere.

Kind of defeats the point of having separate operating systems. I think the best environment an OS creates where apps are deigned around that OS is the value an OS brings to the table.
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