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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by EFreethought »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #317
runarberg wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is normally not how cults work—and yes, I am claiming elon is a cult. When a cult leader fails to deliver, or otherwise issues a prediction that never materializes, the cult member usually grow stronger in the cult’s convictions. This is kind of a counterintuitive psychological phenomena but it has been demonstrated quite a few times. There may be something of a cognitive dissonance driving this. It is that afte…

I would be interested in seeing some citations to back up that claim. The famous Jonestown incident was a case of people having left everything they knew, relocated to an isolated place in a different country, etc. And even then, some members of the cult were forced to drink the poisoned kool-aid and some drank it not knowing it was poisoned. Residents of the commune later committed suicide by drinking a flavored bev…

> I would be interested in seeing some citations to back up that claim.

Not exactly a citation, but none of the predictions or claims of the original QAnon poster have come true or been proven. Yet the Q movement is still around, and for some of them their beliefs are getting stranger.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by fourstar »

GoofballJones wrote: post #370
barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by xenospn »

ditonal wrote: post #607
cmh89 wrote: post #520

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.

I don't know why it's so impossible to believe there are people who truly do want free speech. I wasn't sure if Musk was going to deliver it, but I tried to remain open-minded. I did think previous Twitter management leaned left with some admittedly difficult moderation decisions, but obviously I'm finding out that Musk is even less supportive of true free speech. Ironically this banning of Mastodon links is the #1 t…

Let me know when you find them. So far, every “free-speech“ platform has been a dumpster fire full of instant bans for anyone the user base does not agree with.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by runarberg »

jacquesm wrote: post #230
runarberg wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is normally not how cults work—and yes, I am claiming elon is a cult. When a cult leader fails to deliver, or otherwise issues a prediction that never materializes, the cult member usually grow stronger in the cult’s convictions. This is kind of a counterintuitive psychological phenomena but it has been demonstrated quite a few times. There may be something of a cognitive dissonance driving this. It is that afte…

At this point the Kool-Aid can't be far off.

I doubt it. As your sibling points out, the Jonestown massacre had its member much more psychologically manipulated then Elon could even dream of. While I still stand by me calling Elon a cult, there is definitely a huge difference between him and Jim Jones, and how much manipulation members of each cult have endured.

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Post by memish »

GoofballJones wrote: post #370
barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

He's handing it over to the people. Vox Populi Vox Dei. They will be unbanned shortly, as they should.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073

> Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year old.

Uh, the whole stock market is down. Amazon is down almost as much as Tesla. 48% vs 50%.

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Post by rrmm »

memish wrote: post #625
GoofballJones wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

He's handing it over to the people. Vox Populi Vox Dei. They will be unbanned shortly, as they should. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073 > Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year old. Uh, the whole stock market is down. Amazon is down almost as much as Tesla. 48% vs 50%.

Musk actually ran a poll already, but the people got the wrong answer (unban now). So he's running another poll.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603600001057185792

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

nonbirithm wrote: post #550

I'm wondering what's going to happen to the massive public record of tweets if Twitter as a company does indeed implode. Thousands of tweets are referenced in news articles and blog posts via links to Twitter. Are all of them going to evaporate from the web at once? It would probably turn out to be the biggest case of link rot in history. It would also be pretty interesting 10 years from now if we characterized this…

Twitter has been rotting pretty steadily since he initially stated his intent to buy it. Many, many accounts I follow are gone, their tweets deleted.

And now all the tweets referencing mastodon are gone too.

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Post by [deleted] »

DiNovi wrote: post #156
beachy wrote: post #64

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Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

he was always like this, he just had pr people. read the article his ex wife wrote in like 2012 about how weird he was

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by narrator »

colordrops wrote: post #410
narrator wrote: post #208

One thing that bugs me about the commentary here is that absolutely everything comes down to whether someone is mean or nice. It doesn't matter what they're saying, it's the TONE. Like we could all die fighting over the last gallon of gas in some burnt out hell world and it would be fine as long as everyone was nice to each other. It's like there is no past, there is no future, there is only the every present now and…

"Tone" is a part of what one says. It's not meaningless. It carries a message as well.

Except tone is a function of the observer. It's purely subjective and thus one can make absolutely anything offensive by complaining about the tone.

Watch: I don't like the tone of your comment. Now prove to me that you're not saying something in a tone that's not offensive to me. You can't. My feelings are authoritative "lived experience."

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Post by LarryMullins »

kevinmchugh wrote: post #606
bl_valance wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agreed with most of what he's done up to the point where he banned ElonJet, and now these journalists. It's so dumb to ban an account that was simply sharing already public ADS-B data, it's completely legal, my guess is that he had a bunch of other rich friends that were calling for him to remove these accounts. As for journalists, I guess we'll need to wait, early guess is that Twitter has probably found some dirt…

I'm willing to believe him that there was some kind of scary encounter for his driver and son last night. This would match his other stated exception to his free speech platform desire. That being refusing to reinstate Alex Jones, who he, as a father who lost a child, finds personally repugnant. Anything he dislikes, if he filters through the lens of his children, he's willing to ban, apparently.

Could be. Or maybe he cynically uses "think of the children" as an excuse; he certainly wouldn't be the first one.
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