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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by bb88 »

textbookrental wrote: post #543
nemothekid wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems like a good rule, I don't know - it doesn't seem consistently applied Donie O’Sullivan published a tweet containing a statement from the LAPD and was banned; and personally I don't see it being upheld once Elon's fixation on this story wanes. Furthermore, it just seems that Elon is doing what he accused Twitter of doing for so long; enacting arbitrary rules to silence political opponents. It's his site and…

He doesn't suffer cognitive dissonance.

His reality distortion field prevents him from feeling that.

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Post by [deleted] »

stickfigure wrote: post #353
janalsncm wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it was calling rescuers in the Thailand cave pedos. Seriously, I recommend anyone interested in a heartwarming story to read the Wikipedia page on the Thailand cave rescue. Countries all over the world sent teams of experts to save those boys. Hundreds of people helped out. It just shows how most people in the world are good, but at the same time how the media focuses its coverage on a small, sad little man tw…

To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this is clearly a case of "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Don't get into a flame war and cry to the legal system when the other guy is better at it than you. The dude deserves no sympathy.

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Post by tedunangst »

rayiner wrote: post #282
afavour wrote: post #22

So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.

If Musk does end up taking out Twitter, it’ll be up there with electric cars and rebooting the private space travel industry as a service to humanity. Twitter is an awful platform that relies on cognitive hacks to elevate the worst people (across the spectrum) to prominence. Do you remember the last few years? We got to the point where respectable news outlets were reporting on cable news the insane takes that were f…

He can turn it off without the theatrics at any time.

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Post by kevinmchugh »

bl_valance wrote: post #274
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

I agreed with most of what he's done up to the point where he banned ElonJet, and now these journalists. It's so dumb to ban an account that was simply sharing already public ADS-B data, it's completely legal, my guess is that he had a bunch of other rich friends that were calling for him to remove these accounts. As for journalists, I guess we'll need to wait, early guess is that Twitter has probably found some dirt…

I'm willing to believe him that there was some kind of scary encounter for his driver and son last night. This would match his other stated exception to his free speech platform desire. That being refusing to reinstate Alex Jones, who he, as a father who lost a child, finds personally repugnant.

Anything he dislikes, if he filters through the lens of his children, he's willing to ban, apparently.

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Post by ditonal »

cmh89 wrote: post #520
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.

I don't know why it's so impossible to believe there are people who truly do want free speech.

I wasn't sure if Musk was going to deliver it, but I tried to remain open-minded. I did think previous Twitter management leaned left with some admittedly difficult moderation decisions, but obviously I'm finding out that Musk is even less supportive of true free speech.

Ironically this banning of Mastodon links is the #1 thing pushing me to start exploring Mastodon or other platforms.

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Post by philosopher1234 »

8note wrote: post #569
ksherlock wrote: post #522

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter has a very clear policy - anything that doesn't incite violence is allowed. And the test is simple: "Does it make me want to punch someone in the face"? Not "me" as in the average reasonable person, "me" as in Elon Musk. If you post something that makes Elon want to punch you in the face, you will be banned from his blog. "I personally wanted to punch Kanye, so that was definitely inciting me to violence. Tha…

I'm pretty sure it's anything that indicates a person is at a place. Eg. "I'm at McDonald's getting a burger with my friend" is ban worthy because it says where your friend is

No, it’s because it reveals the burgers location

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Post by darawk »

GoofballJones wrote: post #370
barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

> Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it.

Do you have evidence of that? He claims they were reporting the location.

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Post by runlevel1 »

maxk42 wrote: post #344
hackcasual wrote: post #2

Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Well in many cases doxing is considered illegal: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/119 There are many shades of gray, of course.

That seems pretty narrowly scoped to protecting witnesses, jurors, informants, public servants, and their immediate family members. The personal information it covers is also limited to SSN, home address, phone numbers, and personal email.
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