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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by salex89 »

GameOfFrowns wrote: post #174
salex89 wrote: post #57

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How is that exactly a risk for a commercial aircraft unless you fear someone armed with a Stinger missile is out to get you? If they had one, I sincerely doubt they would be using public ADS-B ported to a Twitter account to track you around. You could sometimes track Global Hawk drones above the Black Sea publicly.

>I sincerely doubt they would be using public ADS-B ported to a Twitter account to track you around. Why not, when it's convenient? It's probably not impossible to get a Stinger missile or similar from one of the current war theaters or black markets.

If you have the means and contacts to obtain a Stinger, I'm pretty sure you have means to obtain info on someones whereabaouts. And why wait fore someone to be in the air, just use an IED while on ground.

I wanna be clear, this is just a mental exercise, I do not wish nor want harm to anyone. This is just because Elon's ego is getting the best of him.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by _ea1k »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #915
folkrav wrote: post #216

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https://twitter.com/BillGatesJet https://twitter.com/bezosjets I guess Musk only sees it as an issue when it's his own privacy innit

Looks like Elon has decided to make it seem intentional now - Bezos' and the celebrity tracker are now banned.

Yeah, it does seem like it. TBH, I don't have a big problem with this, though I don't like all of the potential implications.

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Post by mitchdoogle »

stefan_ wrote: post #337
minimaxir wrote: post #272

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It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus... It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

She just got the role, why would she no longer work there? Presumably she was put there to enable this , after Yoel Roth abruptly left (and was subsequently defamed as a pedo by Elon, what's with the guy and pedophiles).

Musk has previously claimed his use of the word "pedo" comes from South Africa where he says it is/was a common insult when he was growing up, akin to calling someone a "creep" in American English

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Post by gregshap »

gregshap wrote: post #444
saw-lau wrote: post #370

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I've never come across the term 'heavy VF' before - can somebody clue me in?

VF = Visibility Filtering = "Shadow Banning"

I think it's helpful to emphasize that "Visibility Filtering" and "Shadow Banning" since they are functionally the same thing, but seem to have very different connotations depending on whether the speaker considers the action to be merited. As many on this forum know, one of the oldest and best ways to limit spam or other unwanted user behavior is to hide the content without informing the user, in order to slow down the arms race between bad actors and moderators.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by alangibson »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #957
alangibson wrote: post #609

I'm really embarrassed to have once been a Musk fanman (strictly as a space nerd). I know I shouldn't be, but I'm shocked at how much of a mendacious cretin he turned out to be. He, SBF, and many more like them are just a bunch of Chauncy Gardeners. People convince themselves that they're geniuses until one day the realization dawns that they've been dunces all along.

You can be really smart, even genius, and still make mistakes, or become corrupted by power and wealth. There isn't a dichotomy between genius and asshole. I still think Elon's contributions to society are much greater than his flaws. And his contributions don't come from being a "genius" (there are at least hundreds of thousands of geniuses on Earth) as much as from being extremely hardworking.

I'm not drawing a dichotomy between genius and asshole, I'm saying that Musk has revealed himself to be quite a dumbass in reality. For instance, you have to be exceptionally dumb to pay $44B for a company worth $12B.

I'm not saying he doesn't have some talents. But like SBF and Elizabeth Holmes, his superpower seems to be creating a reality distortion field, not economics, physics, or anything else that makes for a long-term success.

There are a lot of anecdotal stories about teams at Tesla and SpaceX managing up to keep him from making terrible decisions all the time. I used to thing it just grousing, but now I'm not so sure.

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Post by stainablesteel »

Ztynovovk wrote: post #933
stainablesteel wrote: post #912

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this is still quick judgement, you don't know why the account is suspended

It appears that all automated flight tracking accounts utilizing open source data from @ADSBexchange have been banned from Twitter, including @RUOligarchJets.

it seems it was because people finally used the jet tracker to stalk his family, i honestly don't blame him

with all the hysteric hatred he gets, he still has a right to safety for him and his family

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Post by JoachimS »

mrtksn wrote: post #418
JoachimS wrote: post #230

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The problem is that if you do try to point out when he contradicts himself, you get banned.

Twitter is not the only place where people hear things.

And that explains, nullifies the problem with Elons behavior how exactly?

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Post by hhh »

shkkmo wrote: post #392
hhh wrote: post #40

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The data is public. Does taking publicly accessible data and tweeting it make it creepy? Or is more a problem to you that all the data is public? You could hide within this, say, you know, take a first class flight somewhere on a commercial plane. The price you pay for having your own plane is that your plane's movements are public. I personally support all of this data being public, it's generally a great way to gai…

The data isn't publicly available from the government because the plane is on the LADD list https://laddlist.com/aircraft/N628ts Thus the only public source is ADSBExchange because it uses croudsourced data. I think there are legitimate questions about how and where aggregating crowdsourced data on people's movements crosses a line. I am sure that allowing crowdsourced license plate reader data that makes a full hist…

Beautiful response, thank you!

I briefly looked at LADD, very interesting mechanism for restricting data by filtering it from feeds. From the rest of your response, it seems like it’s perfectly legal to crowdsource this data.

I don’t really have an opinion about Musk etc, but know plenty of people do and will continue to argue.

To your point of a distributed network of license plate readers, this to me seems akin to what passive wifi/bluetooth scanning is doing, as well as the SDKs that beam your location to other entities. (there was a post on HN a year or so ago but i’m blanking on the name.)

I wonder if there is any legislation in the US for these operations.

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