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Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

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Re: Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

#293
Plug this into a video game and you could have GTA 6 where the NPCs have full dialogue with the appearance of sentience, concerts where imaginary bands play their imaginary catalogue live to you and all kinds of other dynamically generated content.

Re: Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

#294

This is a genius idea. Using an already-existing and well-performing image model, and just encoding input/output as a spectrogram... It's elegant, it's obvious in retrospective, it's just pure genius. I can't wait to hear some serious AI music-making a few years from now.

As someone who loves making music and loves listening to music made by other humans with intention, it just makes me sad. Sure, AI can do lots of things well. But would you rather live in a world where humans get to do things they love (and are able to afford a comfortable life while doing so) or a world where machines do the things humans love and humans are relegated to the remaining tasks that machines happened to…

I would rather live in a world where humans get to do things they love because they can (and not because they have to earn their bread), and machines get to do basically everything that needs to be done but no human is willing to do it.

Advancing AI capabilities in no way detracts from this. You talk about humans being "relegated to the remaining tasks" - but that's a consequence of our socioeconomic system, not of our technology.

Re: Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

#295

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The only thing that affects whether you have a job is the Federal Reserve, not how good productivity tools are. You always have comparative advantage vs an AI, so you always have the qualifications for an entry level job. There will never be a revolution and there's no such thing as late capitalism. Well, not if the Fed does their job.

I see a lot of AI naysayers neglecting the comparative advantage part. If AI completely eliminates low skill art labour from the job pool, it's not like those affected by it are gonna disintegrate, riot, and restructure society. They have the choice of filling an art niche an AI can't or they can spend that time learning other, more in-demand skills. This also ignores that fact that some companies would rather reallo…

That seems a bit like wishful thinking.

People don't have unlimited ability to learn new skills. Training takes time, and someone who spent several years honoring their craft won't be able to pick up a new skill overnight.

On top of that, people have preferences regarding their work – even if someone has the ability to do a different work, they might find it less meaningful and less satysfing.

Finally, don't ignore the speed at which AI capabilities improve. Compare GPT-1 with the current model, and how quickly we got here. Eventually we'll get to a point where humans just won't be able to catch up quickly enough.

Re: Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

#296
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The vocals in these tracks are so interesting. They sound like vocals, with the right tone, phonemes. and structure for the different styles and languages but no meaning. Reminds me of the soundtrack to Nier Automata which did a similar thing: https://youtu.be/8jpJM6nc6fE

That's glossolalia, and it's not that uncommon in human-created art.

Re: Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

#297
As a musician, I'll start worrying once an AI can write at the level of sophistication of a Bill Withers song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXgJkkgWCg

Not simply SOUND like a Bill Withers song, but to have the same depth of meaning and feeling.

At that point, even if we lose we win because we'll all be drowning in amazing music. Then we'll have a different class of problem to contend with.

Re: Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

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As one of the meatsacks whose job you're about to kill... eh, I got nothin, it's damn impressive. It's gonna hit electronic music like a nuclear bomb, I'd wager.

As a listener, I think you're probably still safe. Can you use this to help you though? Maybe. It's impressive what it produces, but I think it probably lacks substance in the same way the visual AI art stuff does. For the most part, it passes what I call the at-a-glanceness test. It's little better than apophenia (the same thing that makes you see shapes in clouds, faces in rocks, or think you've recognised a famili…

As a musician and listener i'm inclined to agree. There were a couple cool examples i bumped into, but some prompts generate results that don't represent any single word or combination of words that were presented to the AI.

What this means for the future is maybe a little more unsettling however.

Re: Riffusion – Stable Diffusion fine-tuned to generate music

#300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing that affects whether you have a job is the Federal Reserve, not how good productivity tools are. You always have comparative advantage vs an AI, so you always have the qualifications for an entry level job. There will never be a revolution and there's no such thing as late capitalism. Well, not if the Fed does their job.

I see a lot of AI naysayers neglecting the comparative advantage part. If AI completely eliminates low skill art labour from the job pool, it's not like those affected by it are gonna disintegrate, riot, and restructure society. They have the choice of filling an art niche an AI can't or they can spend that time learning other, more in-demand skills. This also ignores that fact that some companies would rather reallo…

I think specifically in the area of creative "products" such as art and music you have to think about the customer as well. I have zero interest in AI-created art or music. None. The value of art is its humanity; its expression of the artist's message, vision, and passion. AI doesn't have that, so it's not of any interest to me.

I don't know how many custoners feel the same way, but I won't be purchasing any AI art or music or knowingly giving it any of my attention.

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