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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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I created a website that tracks his plane: www.wheresmusk.com.

what's the point? would you like someone making a website tracking you even if it was public information? simply pathetic

> would you like someone making a website tracking you even if it was public information?

Mark Zuckerberg already did that. It's called Facebook.

But also tracking a plane != tracking a person. If Elon doesn't want his flights to be tracked he could always fly commercial like the rest of us plebs.

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Why yes, he did, eg: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519036983137509376 Musk repeatedly said that his aim is to allow anything that's legal. He even promised not to ban this specific account: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_au...

Isn't he suing the person behind the tracking thing? Musk thinks this is against the law, so he isn't being inconsistent with that tweet. But even if he was, one tweet isn't really much of a commitment. People throw out tweets they don't mean all the time. 140 characters isn't enough to lay out an ideological position. Running a company like twitter is a bit more serious - they can't moderate just based on interpreta…

> Isn't he suing the person behind the tracking thing? Musk thinks this is against the law, so he isn't being inconsistent with that tweet.

You can sue anyone for anything. If you're going to say that only illegal things don't belong, you should wait for the legal system to produce a judgment.

> But even if he was, one tweet isn't really much of a commitment. People throw out tweets they don't mean all the time.

He's said it multiple times. If you don't mean it, how about you just don't say it?

> Running a company like twitter is a bit more serious - they can't moderate just based on interpretations of what Elon tweets. And they were never going to.

Except so far that's exactly what is happening. Musk promised "free speech", so far everything indicates that in reality what we get is "Elon rules". In the end it's simply about what he wants, nothing more.

Mind, I fully agree he's got the right to do anything he wants. It's his site now. I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Elon Musk, within the last hour, sent out a request for a person to be doxxed with a video of someone's license plate and face. This is not a principled policy.

The loophole that Musk is relying on here is that it's not real-time and is therefore not against (the new) ToS.

Would Musk reinstate Elonjet if his tweets were delayed by 12 hours? Doesn't seem like that's going to happen.

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When people try to pin carbon emissions on an individual's travel it sounds willfully obtuse if not completely disingenuous. The trajectory of climate change will not be altered by a few thousand billionaires taking fewer flights. You know this, I know this, we all know this.

That's not how solidarity works though.

Solidarity won't stop climate change. Putting people in positions of political power who prioritize transforming our economy will stop climate change.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?

citizens deserve equal protection under the law. there's nothing special about his kid (or him). if anything, information about public figures, when in public, deserves less shielding.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

> Make that what you will

Musk considers harm to anyone's family other than his to be necessary for Twitter revenue.

> organizations who supported harm to my family

A significant problem in Twitter and social media in general. Musk seeks to protect himself, while opening the floodgates on others for his version of "free speech" by unbanning accounts previously flagged as abusive.

A hypocrite by definition.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Lol how does it make sense to connect the public data plane tracker with someone following a car

It's easy if the plane is flying into a small airport with very little traffic (like SMO)

In that case you can just camp outside it and wait for his plane to land, which a determined stalker would do.

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Lol how does it make sense to connect the public data plane tracker with someone following a car

The link is weak but because you can track the plane you can wait at the private airport terminal and wait for the guy to walk out the door. There's very few people that go in and out of those terminals so it's easy to just wait for the person in question. Once they're out you can then follow and tail their car.

And? Literally everyone else runs this same risk who uses an airline. Maybe if home boy doesn't want to get tracked, he should stop using a means of locomotion where every flight plan is a matter of public record.

Zero sympathy here. I'm actually more upset that there appears to be a "hush hush, pay to anonymize" program, and that it isn't rolled out as a default. Billionaires do not deserve exclusions from the baseline risk profiles everyone else endures.

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I find it odd that his son would be traveling in a car with no dashcam and the only video from the whole incident is some guy sitting in the driver's seat of another car looking very relaxed. Also that there's no mention so far of any police involvement, as I'm fairly sure the LAPD would take a violent incident report by professional bodyguards as something worth looking into.

Do teslas have dashcam functionality? If they don’t I bet they will soon.

I don't know if it was even a Tesla car, but if it was they're sorta famous for having cameras out the yin-yang, I've seen lots of 'vandals caught by Tesla security cameras' puff pieces.
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