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Re: XFCE 4.18

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General population needs a "desktop," I get it. But for those comfortable with the CLI, a window manager (e.g., one that does not suck [0]) should be good enough. (Coming from personal experience - used Gnome/KDE/XFCE, enjoyed them all, in the end went back to a blissful world of MWM.) [0] http://dwm.suckless.org/

What does CLI have to do with tiling windows?

DWM and MWM are two different window managers; DWM supports various window layouts.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain why you think it's worse?

No thumbnail images. It is a meme for good reason. Really annoying after how many years waiting? Low on details, extremely limited customisation options. When I begin typing a file name to save a file, it interprets this as a desire to filter the contents of the file list. The aforementioned lack of any path or way to type in the full path to a location. There were more but thankfully I don't see it as often since I…

The thumbnails-in-filepicker feature branch was merged recently: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/5163

The rest of your complaints, which I share, remain unfixed.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Only DE which supports all BSD, Linux most DEs have problem in one or other BSD or require lot of patches to be used with

GNOME and KDE both work fine on Linux and FreeBSD. In addition, OpenBSD usually gets the newest GNOMEs.

It has gotten better on the BSDs, but there are a lot of patches and shims that have been implemented and maintained to do that though.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGwaT5rQML0&t=580s

Re: XFCE 4.18

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I've used XFCE (since Mar 9th, 2008 until Apr 7th, 2021) now using "i3-wm v4.21" as my main window manager on all computers. But I still use a lot of XFCE software like Thunar been most notable. Thunar has received much needed love, thank you to all developers making it better. Thunar now has "Split View" (dual pane mode) this is one of the reasons why I used more "PCManFM" or "ranger", but unlike Thunar "PCManFM" ne…

You should give i3 + XFCE a go... Start an XFCE session, launch Session and Startup settings, disable xfwm4 and xfdesktop, add i3, relogin. Done! XFCE DE with i3 window management.

Is this what they do with the Fedora i3 spin? Sounds (looks) a lot like it. I'm very new to Linux and I was wondering about "that other DE" when I just wanted i3. Maybe I have to go for Fedora Core + i3 separately then.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Does anyone know of a good way to disable that braindead window fading "feature" in GTK? If you look at the changelog, the text in the inactive window is barely readable. I have to squint to read it on most monitors. Fading it is also unnecessary in most applications. Gnome apps need to do it because they have no titlebar, but this isn't a problem in most cases, and xfwm can draw titlebars just fine. I know I can man…

Settings | Window Manager Tweaks | Compositor | Opacity of inactive windows

That is not what I'm asking about. I don't mean the opacity of inactive window. What I want to disable is GTK's setting of the color of various elements depending on whether the window has focus or not. Even with compositor opacity set at 100%, GTK windows that don't have focus get that dim grey text. The color is, technically, theme-defined; unfortunately, both Adwaita and Greybird use a really low-contrast color that I find really difficult to read on some monitors.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an enthusiastic XFCE user, do you mind answering a question? How do you usually launch applications? I can appreciate the discoverability provided by a nested start menu but I've grown very fond of text launchers with autocomplete provided by gnome, mac os, dmenu, etc.

Not parent commentator, but in my case I do the following: rofi -show run The above command is mapped to Command-R Similarly Command is mapped `xfce4-popup-whiskermenu` Both land on a search box and you can search to your heart content and select the option that works for you :-)

I use rofi on pretty much any desktop environment, it's super great. I'm eagerly awaiting its window-search feature getting wayland support (Knowing wayland it will be compositor-specific though...).

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Does anyone know of a good way to disable that braindead window fading "feature" in GTK? If you look at the changelog, the text in the inactive window is barely readable. I have to squint to read it on most monitors. Fading it is also unnecessary in most applications. Gnome apps need to do it because they have no titlebar, but this isn't a problem in most cases, and xfwm can draw titlebars just fine. I know I can man…

I think it's the compositor doing that. In XFCE, you can control that from the "Window Manager Tweaks" app, in the "compositor" tab.

It's not the compositor, sadly, this is a GTK "feature". GTK allows you to define colors for various elements separately, depending on whether the window has focus or not. This is a good idea on paper, but in practice it seems this either doesn't have enough granularity (to allow e.g. dimming button text, which is probably useless when the window doesn't have focus, but not the text in text views, for instance, which you might actually want to read even from unfocused windows), or most theme designers, including Adwaita's, use it indiscriminately.

If you have a high-DPI monitor with good contrast it actually looks okay. But I routinely have to work with work-issued, ten year-old monitors in artificially-lit offices. It's really terrible.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Can you finally resize windows with a larger grab area than 1pixel? That drove me nuts

I don't use XFCE, but maybe it's possible to fix this with an xfwm4 theme? The theme I used on sawfish back in the day had a similar 1-pixel grab area, and I was able to change it by forking the theme and modifying it.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Ever since I switched my desktop to Linux, I've been using Cinnamon. I've noticed XFCE, and occasionally used it briefly on some machine, but I've certainly not explored its capabilities (e.g. from the Chicago95 link I gather it can definitely be a "traditional desktop layout" style affair, perhaps with a different launcher.

Can someone point out to me, as a Cinnamon user - who remembers the Windows 5 UI fondly -some aspects of XFCE I might find appealing?

Re: XFCE 4.18

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One of the nice things about XFCE is that its window manager includes a style called “Kokodi” (on CentOS 8 Streaming) which shows the active or focused window with a distinctive blue title bar. I’ve found that many other window managers (including MS Windows), don’t make this visually obvious (i.e., there’s little difference between the focused and non-active windows) which makes it harder to discern which applicatio…

The window style `Default-4.4` does the same. Incredibly useful.
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