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XFCE 4.18

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Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

dmm wrote: post #19
coldpie wrote: post #3

Awesome. Been using XFCE for ages. It hits just the right spot of modern features and usability without trying to re-invent the desktop paradigm for the Nth time. If you just want "Win98, but in 2022," you've found your desktop environment. WRT this update, the Thunar updates look fantastic. The File Highlight feature looks especially cool. I can imagine using that to highlight really frequently used folders in my ho…

As an enthusiastic XFCE user, do you mind answering a question? How do you usually launch applications? I can appreciate the discoverability provided by a nested start menu but I've grown very fond of text launchers with autocomplete provided by gnome, mac os, dmenu, etc.

I usually open a term and run "screen myapp"

I don't run that many applications though.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by HeckFeck »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #59
HeckFeck wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> i have a document with everything that i hate about it I can save you the effort by reminding everyone that the GTK3 file picker is a significant setback from the Windows 98 filepicker, and it the amount of times I encounter it on Linux is beginning to feel like flagellation.

Can you explain why you think it's worse?

No thumbnail images. It is a meme for good reason. Really annoying after how many years waiting?

Low on details, extremely limited customisation options.

When I begin typing a file name to save a file, it interprets this as a desire to filter the contents of the file list.

The aforementioned lack of any path or way to type in the full path to a location.

There were more but thankfully I don't see it as often since I use KDE now.

This site compares the two directly: https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-thumbna...

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by geon »

nortonham wrote: post #71
biggunz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to abandon XFCE due to some issue with aging XFCE4 libraries and high cpu problems, switched to KDE Plasma 5.x,. got 50% longer battery lifetime and havent looked back. They need to focus on these kinds of problems, not on adding new features, otherwise I would have stayed.

what about a DE's libraries would make it drain so much battery life?

Does xfce do a lot of the graphics in software? That is very inefficient on modern hardware.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by JayGuerette »

I've used XFCE seemingly forever, at least 20 years.

In recent years I've grown to dislike Thunar and a variety of other things that were mostly GTK issues and some XFCE issues. I was really frustrated with clicking on the system tray and having that click register as a click on the menu that popped up, that just so happened to be 'Quit', and closing the app.

Then I upgraded my computer in a huge jump. Sure, games were faster, but I wouldn't enjoy the results of my investment at any given moment. So I switched to KDE for the first time ever, with animations and sexiness everywhere. It's got it's issues, and it's multi-monitor support is really sub-par, but so many things suddenly work better.

Best example: The flow of clicking on a ZIP to download and ultimately looking at the extacted output in new folder is suddenly effortless and intuitive.

I love the polish of KDE and while I'm tempted to give XFCE another try, the thought of giving up on the effortless sanity of KDE for GTK funk makes me shudder.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by nortonham »

geon wrote: post #83
nortonham wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what about a DE's libraries would make it drain so much battery life?

Does xfce do a lot of the graphics in software? That is very inefficient on modern hardware.

I have no idea, I was asking because it's not something I know enough about.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by squarefoot »

geek_at wrote: post #78

Can you finally resize windows with a larger grab area than 1pixel? That drove me nuts

Same here. I love XFCE, but this is really annoying. I would solve it by protruding a small shape from the windows external sides/angles that can be grabbed more easily as soon as the mouse pointer approaches them, rather than using thicker windows borders.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by chungy »

jayp1418 wrote: post #56

Only DE which supports all BSD, Linux most DEs have problem in one or other BSD or require lot of patches to be used with

GNOME and KDE both work fine on Linux and FreeBSD. In addition, OpenBSD usually gets the newest GNOMEs.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by dixie_land »

mizzack wrote: post #74
tux wrote: post #35

I've used XFCE (since Mar 9th, 2008 until Apr 7th, 2021) now using "i3-wm v4.21" as my main window manager on all computers. But I still use a lot of XFCE software like Thunar been most notable. Thunar has received much needed love, thank you to all developers making it better. Thunar now has "Split View" (dual pane mode) this is one of the reasons why I used more "PCManFM" or "ranger", but unlike Thunar "PCManFM" ne…

You should give i3 + XFCE a go... Start an XFCE session, launch Session and Startup settings, disable xfwm4 and xfdesktop, add i3, relogin. Done! XFCE DE with i3 window management.

Interesting. I also run i3 with XFCE components but I cherry pick them and start them under my i3 session. Specifically I use the xfsettingsd from xfce so I can still customize the appearance using the Settings app, and without having to restart the session for them to take effect

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by Gordonjcp »

HeckFeck wrote: post #82
Gordonjcp wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain why you think it's worse?

No thumbnail images. It is a meme for good reason. Really annoying after how many years waiting? Low on details, extremely limited customisation options. When I begin typing a file name to save a file, it interprets this as a desire to filter the contents of the file list. The aforementioned lack of any path or way to type in the full path to a location. There were more but thankfully I don't see it as often since I…

So the reason it's broken, is that it doesn't do all the annoying things that make the file picker in Windows 98 broken?

Granted I've never used Windows 98 so I don't know what I'd compare it with but all those misfeatures sound annoying.

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