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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by twawaaay »

oblio wrote: post #878
twawaaay wrote: post #875

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He has a jet because, honestly, he is traveling constantly for his work. Call it a tax on running multiple large operations. Given his long work days I can see how the jet pays for itself many times over. And renting a yacht for $7k is actually super cheap. I know people who spend more on champagne in a club in a single evening, and no, they are not billionaires. Even if this yacht was rented 365 days a year, which I…

Dude, he also has a $70 million jet, which costs about as much as a yacht. Let's be honest here. > If you want to pass judgment on what is and what is not frugality when it comes to billionaires, you need to expand your views a bit and stop thinking like a poor person. Also :-))) We're not talking poor here. We're talking "makes more money in 1 month than the richest lawyer you know" rich.

> Dude, he also has a $70 million jet, which costs about as much as a yacht. Let's be honest here.

First, I am not your dude.

Second, please, read the comment before you respond. I addressed it.

$70M is a drop in the ocean when you are in tens of billions of dollars especially when it is your work tool that lets you move fast between locations and save couple of hours on each trip.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by 40four »

jacquesm wrote: post #631
mlindner wrote: post #492

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This confuses the issue though. ICAO numbers change if your aircraft is enrolled in the PIA program, which Elon is. Sweeny was bypassing this by using people on the ground to circumvent this by watching the jet's movement and if an aircraft was going to takeoff that had an unknown ICAO number he'd have someone at the airport to figure out it was Elon's jet that had changed it's ICAO number. Your link will only be val…

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

So? Everyone keeps saying this over and over, but leaving out the most important part. In the same tweet he admitted it’s a direct threat to his personal safety! Can you comment on that part? Because it seems like people want, with Elon and other celebrities, to be put in harms way, in the name of keeping these doxxing accounts online. Which by the way are made by some college kid who probably doesn’t realize the ramifications of what he’s doing.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by moolcool »

sethd wrote: post #864
moolcool wrote: post #855

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I think it's fair play to call out the fact that "Mr. Work 20 Hour Days" has lots of rest and relaxation in his own life.

Anyone paying attention to his tweets can tell this is obvious fake front that he tries to maintain (one that actually works on a lot of folks). On some level it's probably technically true part of the time, counting long flights in his private jet as "working", etc.

Of course-- anyone with eyes can see that VC hustle culture is a grift.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by isleyaardvark »

jfoster wrote: post #734
esskay wrote: post #727

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From the sounds of it its a bit more than just posting public flight data. He had people at airports tracking the plane as it was changing its flight code to prevent tracking. That goes beyond using public information and enters into stalking teritory, even if only in a fairy minor way. Not defending the ban, but the context is a bit more complex than posting something off of a public site onto twitter.

Not just that, but the owner of the account offered to take it down for a price. Feels like extortion.

Anyone who knows about that offer knows that Elon offered money to take it down first. Why are you being deceptive about this?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by tamaharbor »

TheLoafOfBread wrote: post #821
tamaharbor wrote: post #805

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Or a very small fraction of a volcano.

You can say that about anyone, suddenly pollution is then non-issue.

We need to adapt to climate change, rather than try and stop it, which is probably impossible.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ethanbond »

lodovic wrote: post #720
firsttimebigboy wrote: post #644

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His children are only tools for him. He only cares about them as long as they provide him value.

What an awful thing to claim. Do you have any sources to support this?

One piece evidence is that he has what, 9 or 10 (at least) kids with 3 or 4 (at least) women, including (at least) one employee.

All evidence points to him liking to sire and not to father.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by lolsowrong »

40four wrote: post #882
jacquesm wrote: post #631

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I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

So? Everyone keeps saying this over and over, but leaving out the most important part. In the same tweet he admitted it’s a direct threat to his personal safety! Can you comment on that part? Because it seems like people want, with Elon and other celebrities, to be put in harms way, in the name of keeping these doxxing accounts online. Which by the way are made by some college kid who probably doesn’t realize the ram…

I wonder if the founding fathers had an opinion on temporary safety vs liberty. Shame there’s not a quote about that.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

fhd2 wrote: post #871
mach1ne wrote: post #787

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Why has even HN comment field lowered to nothing but blind hate? Say what you want but the man has reformed rocket technology and jumpstarted the world's shift to electrical vehicles, both against all odds. Hate-takes like this are silly.

Hate is not the opposite of worship - he can be great in some areas and a "dumbass billionaire" in others. Looking at history, I can't imagine there's any useful technological advance (or adoption thereof) that depends on any individual - if EVs were meant to be successful I believe they would've been with or without Musk. Same goes for anything Space X does. Same goes for anything _anyone_ does. If you believe the w…

That's absolutely right.

Naive people and children fall victim of hero worship.

Adults and people who can think for themselves are beyond that and understand that it's humanity as a whole which progresses forward, humans just make a fuss and all sort of drama to be the person who gets the merit and gets to sign off the progress do jour.

Musk got to sign off the peculiar niche of EVs and rockets which are niches nobody else wanted because they are dependant upon political support.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by freen »

When the “free speech absolutists” are protecting drag queen story hour from armed right wing goons, maybe I’ll start listening to them.

For now, “free speech absolutistism” seems to boil down to: don’t ban me for being a nazi/spreading misinformation, please ban drag queens.

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