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Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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You're quoting the Wikipedia page, it looks like. Do you think Schulte's former employer is too noble to have people working to "advance their perspectives" on Wikipedia? For all we know the images are stick figures. For all we know they just made up that he said that. It is exceedingly easy to manufacture something like this, when you control all the sources of information. If you ever wondered how some people in th…

No need to invent a shadowy conspiracy theory here. Some people really are just unrepentant pedophiles, and based on his own words, this guy is one of them.

"No need to invent a shady conspiracy theory here"?

You are aware we're talking about the CIA here? I'm supposed to believe it's unreasonable to think CIA people would smear a guy they personally and collectively hate?

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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Previously, the government gave him a laptop to help prepare his own defense after he decided to represent himself, but then he copied child porn onto it, so they took it away and he had to use a typewriter. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23126482/220923-halt-...

Do you really believe that? Or maybe you don't really care about the truth of it, but find it convenient for your career and peace of mind to just go along with whatever his torturers say?

Tinfoil hat type of retorts is not what I expect to read on HN

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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There would have to be a lot of conspirators involved, that first decided to plant child pornography on this guy's encrypted hard disks and his laptop, and then somehow coerced him into defending himself with the proclamation that it's a 'victimless crime'. Given how unlikely this is, it's almost certainly the case that he is a pedophile who has trafficked in child pornography with other pedophiles. I don't know abou…

No, it would not. Odds are there is something on your hard disk right now that could be classified as child porn, if the accuser was motivated enough. And imagine you wouldn't get to defend yourself, and no one would speak up and say "Hey come on, obviously that's not remotely CSAM" because they hated you for being a "traitor". It doesn't take a conspiracy at all, all it takes is a handful of people willing to say "S…

> No, it would not. Odds are there is something on your hard disk right now that could be classified as child porn, if the accuser was motivated enough.

Speak for yourself, there's absolutely nothing in my files that could even marginally be classified as child pornography. I would think this is the same for most people.

With this guy, investigators found hundreds of thousands of photos and videos of child sexual abuse on his disks. And then he tried to defend himself by claiming it's a victimless crime.

I know people like a good conspiracy theory, especially if it involves the government, but this isn't it.

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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post #47

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No need to invent a shadowy conspiracy theory here. Some people really are just unrepentant pedophiles, and based on his own words, this guy is one of them.

"No need to invent a shady conspiracy theory here"? You are aware we're talking about the CIA here? I'm supposed to believe it's unreasonable to think CIA people would smear a guy they personally and collectively hate?

Okay, so, where is your evidence of this?

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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post #63

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No, it would not. Odds are there is something on your hard disk right now that could be classified as child porn, if the accuser was motivated enough. And imagine you wouldn't get to defend yourself, and no one would speak up and say "Hey come on, obviously that's not remotely CSAM" because they hated you for being a "traitor". It doesn't take a conspiracy at all, all it takes is a handful of people willing to say "S…

> No, it would not. Odds are there is something on your hard disk right now that could be classified as child porn, if the accuser was motivated enough. Speak for yourself, there's absolutely nothing in my files that could even marginally be classified as child pornography. I would think this is the same for most people. With this guy, investigators found hundreds of thousands of photos and videos of child sexual abu…

> there's absolutely nothing in my files that could even marginally be classified as child pornography

You're going to run into your Cardinal Richelieu one day, person who signed up to HN two hours ago in order to defend the honour of the CIA.

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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post #63

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> No, it would not. Odds are there is something on your hard disk right now that could be classified as child porn, if the accuser was motivated enough. Speak for yourself, there's absolutely nothing in my files that could even marginally be classified as child pornography. I would think this is the same for most people. With this guy, investigators found hundreds of thousands of photos and videos of child sexual abu…

> there's absolutely nothing in my files that could even marginally be classified as child pornography You're going to run into your Cardinal Richelieu one day, person who signed up to HN two hours ago in order to defend the honour of the CIA.

Announcing what you desire to be true does not make it true.

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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post #62

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Do you really believe that? Or maybe you don't really care about the truth of it, but find it convenient for your career and peace of mind to just go along with whatever his torturers say?

Tinfoil hat type of retorts is not what I expect to read on HN

Well excuse me for suggesting that this guy's employer, whose mission includes lying, betraying and killing people, might not be scrupulously fair in this issue.

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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post #64

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"No need to invent a shady conspiracy theory here"? You are aware we're talking about the CIA here? I'm supposed to believe it's unreasonable to think CIA people would smear a guy they personally and collectively hate?

Okay, so, where is your evidence of this?

Much like a fresh account created to defend the CIA's honour, the CIA does not get the benefit of doubt that they would NOT lie to hurt a guy they hate.

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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There’s really nothing in the letter that sounds like anything except normal jail. There’s something about 24 hour “speakers” which sounds alarming, but if it were what you think it sounds like he would have elaborated on it a lot more. There are also a lot of people “speaking” in these places 24 hours a day which can be frustrating. Other than that this looks like deranged whining to me.

You act very confident without proof. There are documentaries of the torture styles the US government used. Speakers that will blast white noise. Sleep deprivation will literally make you go insane.

I’m extremely dubious that this guy is being subjected to noise torture. That is the claim that has a high burden of proof.

If it were true I believe he would write the whole letter about that. Instead he says 5 words about it.

Combined with the rest of it being mostly whining about nonsense… it looks deranged.

Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker

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post #24

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>I'd probably ignore the child porn allegations - that's a common way to smear folks. 'Schulte referred to the child pornography he was accused of possessing as a "victimless crime"'. Yeah, I'm not sure why you'd defend yourself like that in such a situation.

It is a legitimate defense strategy - and one that actually has valid points, at least for stuff like anime "CSAM". IMO, societies should focus more on preventing the creation of real-life CSAM: - teach children from a young age in an appropriate way about sex including what the names of genitalia are, so that in a court examination you don't have to argue about what "down there" means, and consent. Children can only…

You're possibly right on some of those points, but it would be sad to ruin home schooling for everyone. There are a number of very legitimate cases where home schooling can help kids who are having a rough time at school.
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