Worth remembering that this despite people's opinions. This person continues to be innocent until they are proven guilty. They may even actually be innocent. However unlikely it may sound.
Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker
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Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker
#52For what it's worth, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly unusual about the conditions he describes, it's just another day (month, year, decade, life sentence) for any prisoner at a supermax prison like ADX Florence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence Of course, the facts that this is considered normal in the US and that anybody is in there for non-violent offenses are outrageous, but here as ever t…
High security or generally poor conditions are one thing, and maybe expected in prison. But if the description provided is accurate that's torture, which is illegal even in the US. The "get out of jail free" card is that the authorities then twist the definition in a manner where the same thing is only torture when any other country is doing it.
The Stasi would be extra proud of the US.
Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker
#53For what it's worth, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly unusual about the conditions he describes, it's just another day (month, year, decade, life sentence) for any prisoner at a supermax prison like ADX Florence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence Of course, the facts that this is considered normal in the US and that anybody is in there for non-violent offenses are outrageous, but here as ever t…
We don't excel in many categories, but we've got sick, obese, and jailed on lock.
Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker
#54For a moment I thought I was reading a letter from a Gitmo inmate.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Schulte referred to the child pornography he was accused of possessing as a "victimless crime" Whilst im sceptical of these charges, this doesn't really help his case. Certainly sounds like he is just admitting he has it.
You're quoting the Wikipedia page, it looks like. Do you think Schulte's former employer is too noble to have people working to "advance their perspectives" on Wikipedia? For all we know the images are stick figures. For all we know they just made up that he said that. It is exceedingly easy to manufacture something like this, when you control all the sources of information. If you ever wondered how some people in th…
For all we know, Schulte doesn't exist and the whole thing is Russian psyops.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's say all the charges on that page are true, and on the other side, take even half the allegations in his letter seriously...still, why are we treating a prisoner like this? Is it helping something?
He was known to be edgy, anger easily, and tended toward crackpot behavior. From all outward appearances, the CIA wants to break him. This would not seem unusual for them. Wikipedia has a barebones overview. I'd probably ignore the child porn allegations - that's a common way to smear folks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Schulte
>I'd probably ignore the child porn allegations - that's a common way to smear folks.
Excuse me, but what the fuck kind of logic is that? Do you have a citation?
Maybe back in the days of WinMX, Kazaa, and anonymous FTP servers folks would abuse the spirit of the strict liability nature of CSAM paired with the fact it's difficult to truly erase terrible things you accidentally encounter... but nowadays it's REALLY easy to stick to sources of porn that are legal.
But to be clear... that's not at all what happened here. He didn't spider file sharing sites and get more than he bargained for or something mislabeled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Schulte#Sex_crimes_alle...
>the government found that Schulte had "neatly organized" this material "according to his preferences, and stored it for a period of years."[31] In the government's view, there was "no set of circumstances that can confidently assure the Court that he's not going to continue to try to download child pornography, encourage others to download it and share it and just generally engage in very dangerous sexual activity."... When the government searched Schulte's phone, they found a photograph taken inside the bathroom of his old home.[35] The picture showed an unconscious woman whose underwear had been removed and whose genitals were being touched. She was not publicly named, but was identified as Schulte's roommate at the time. She informed investigators that she passed out one night with no memory of what happened, and that the photograph was not consensual.[2] She was unable to identify the person who took the picture and molested her, prosecutors in Loudoun County said an analysis of Schulte's hands confirmed they were his hands in the picture.
When you recite talking points like that, you're telling on yourself because I assure you most hackers are not running around downloading CSAM and uploading
(And we call it "child sex abuse material", not child porn, to emphasize the folks are victims of abuse... children cannot consent, full stop, and you tell on yourself when you want to ride the lightning of when that consent should start in your porn habits.)
Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker
#57For what it's worth, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly unusual about the conditions he describes, it's just another day (month, year, decade, life sentence) for any prisoner at a supermax prison like ADX Florence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence Of course, the facts that this is considered normal in the US and that anybody is in there for non-violent offenses are outrageous, but here as ever t…
High security or generally poor conditions are one thing, and maybe expected in prison. But if the description provided is accurate that's torture, which is illegal even in the US. The "get out of jail free" card is that the authorities then twist the definition in a manner where the same thing is only torture when any other country is doing it. The Stasi would be extra proud of the US.
"American Exceptionalism"
Re: Handwritten complaint to the court by alleged CIA Vault 7 leaker
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s really nothing in the letter that sounds like anything except normal jail. There’s something about 24 hour “speakers” which sounds alarming, but if it were what you think it sounds like he would have elaborated on it a lot more. There are also a lot of people “speaking” in these places 24 hours a day which can be frustrating. Other than that this looks like deranged whining to me.
You act very confident without proof. There are documentaries of the torture styles the US government used. Speakers that will blast white noise. Sleep deprivation will literally make you go insane.
No post body was provided.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is a legitimate defense strategy - and one that actually has valid points, at least for stuff like anime "CSAM". IMO, societies should focus more on preventing the creation of real-life CSAM: - teach children from a young age in an appropriate way about sex including what the names of genitalia are, so that in a court examination you don't have to argue about what "down there" means, and consent. Children can only…
I think you'll find more pedophiles in the public school system than the home. Biological fathers have very low incidence rates of child molestation and households have limited numbers of people in them. On the other hand you have a building where it is known that lots of children attend daily and is full of people who self selected for whatever reason to be around someone elses kids all day. My high school pulled tw…
Those types are common in K12 -- they're used to interacting with folks with less mobility (no car, no job and/or literally disabled) and exploiting that.
It's my understanding my alma mater (is that the right phrasing for your former high school?) still employs at least one, but the two people who told me about her behavior don't seem interested in having her removed from her position and I can't do anything with hearsay.
They often prey on kids victimized by the other set of abusers, the one's who don't abuse kids sexually, but are utter sadists who jump in with the bullies to victimize and other kids who are geeky, queer, or just plain shy they whine cries of false concern that those kids might not just commit suicide.
It was a different time before Columbine -- you had more freedom, but you also would get attacked physically -- nowadays the model seems to be that folks have some kind of cold war until the other side loses their temper, and then the true abuser gets to cry victim.
For context, I actually spotted one of the paraprofessionals from a school I attended in the crowd on Jan 6th -- it's been a perpetual thing for kids of a certain age when Columbine happened that folks are forever fearful of what weird hacker bois like me will do -- but never enough to lift us out of precarity that would allow us to get away from them and their terrible views, because let's be frank: having everyone who's not in the Christian right from my shitty ass township move to Portland or Brooklyn or whatever isn't a sustainable life strategy :-)
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you really believe that? Or maybe you don't really care about the truth of it, but find it convenient for your career and peace of mind to just go along with whatever his torturers say?
There would have to be a lot of conspirators involved, that first decided to plant child pornography on this guy's encrypted hard disks and his laptop, and then somehow coerced him into defending himself with the proclamation that it's a 'victimless crime'. Given how unlikely this is, it's almost certainly the case that he is a pedophile who has trafficked in child pornography with other pedophiles. I don't know abou…
No, it would not. Odds are there is something on your hard disk right now that could be classified as child porn, if the accuser was motivated enough.
And imagine you wouldn't get to defend yourself, and no one would speak up and say "Hey come on, obviously that's not remotely CSAM" because they hated you for being a "traitor".
It doesn't take a conspiracy at all, all it takes is a handful of people willing to say "So what, I don't care what happens to such people". Which, you'll notice, is what you're saying right now.