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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by camhart »

jelv wrote: post #703

https://mastodon.social/@elonjet is the new home. You can follow updates on Jack Sweeney's account https://mastodon.social/@JxckS It will be interesting to see if republishing public available data does count as aiding in the doxing. I don't think so. His doesn't profit or calls for doxing on the account.

According to mlinder's comment below, Jack is doing a bit more that isn't public.

> This confuses the issue though. ICAO numbers change if your aircraft is enrolled in the PIA program, which Elon is. Sweeny was bypassing this by using people on the ground to circumvent this by watching the jet's movement and if an aircraft was going to takeoff that had an unknown ICAO number he'd have someone at the airport to figure out it was Elon's jet that had changed it's ICAO number.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ignoramous »

camhart wrote: post #711
jelv wrote: post #703

https://mastodon.social/@elonjet is the new home. You can follow updates on Jack Sweeney's account https://mastodon.social/@JxckS It will be interesting to see if republishing public available data does count as aiding in the doxing. I don't think so. His doesn't profit or calls for doxing on the account.

According to mlinder's comment below, Jack is doing a bit more that isn't public. > This confuses the issue though. ICAO numbers change if your aircraft is enrolled in the PIA program, which Elon is. Sweeny was bypassing this by using people on the ground to circumvent this by watching the jet's movement and if an aircraft was going to takeoff that had an unknown ICAO number he'd have someone at the airport to figure…

Sounds like IACO number mapping (in some cases) may not be readily accessible, but are still public?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by fivre »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #652
jacquesm wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?

it me, the incontrovertible proof that is an 11s clip of somebody dressed like an 80s action film ninja inside a fuckin random-ass hyundai

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by porbelm »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #652
jacquesm wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

A masked stalker, dressed all in black, was following his young child in car thinking it was him. He then blocked the car and jumped on the hood: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 Imagine it were your child. Can you honestly say you wouldn’t change any opinions or practices when it came to personal security?

What does this have to do with tracking his plane using public data? This is not about tracking his, or Grimes' or any other ex's car; not even about stalking them.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by yreg »

jacquesm wrote: post #631
mlindner wrote: post #492

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This confuses the issue though. ICAO numbers change if your aircraft is enrolled in the PIA program, which Elon is. Sweeny was bypassing this by using people on the ground to circumvent this by watching the jet's movement and if an aircraft was going to takeoff that had an unknown ICAO number he'd have someone at the airport to figure out it was Elon's jet that had changed it's ICAO number. Your link will only be val…

I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

It is very relevant in the context of claim that ElonJet only reshared information that was already public.

We need to be careful about not (unintentionally) spreading misinformation.

(Your objection to Elon is correct of course.)

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by mcv »

zimpenfish wrote: post #692
mcv wrote: post #681

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically, maybe, but it also sounds a lot like a form of doxing. Where people live is not some highly classified secret, but collecting that data about people on a large scale, or posting it online, is not okay. In the same way, posting the whereabouts of someone's personal private plane[0] is not so different from posting their whereabouts when they're using a different form of transportation, and could be consid…

> not so different from posting their whereabouts when they're using a different form of transportation As someone pointed out over in Fedi-land, this would be broad enough to cover sports fixtures because you know where players are going to be (live location) and you know how they're likely going to get there (coach from local hotels if you're a UK footballer).

Presence at a specific public event with an audience specifically to see them, is not the same thing as constantly tracking and publishing someone's whereabouts.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by imgabe »

c54 wrote: post #260

Worth remembering this is public information: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af Looks like they took down other accounts in violation of the new policy: https://twitter.com/airforcetrack https://twitter.com/gatesjets https://twitter.com/CelebJets

If you own a home, your address may also be publicly available via county records.

Does that make it ok to post someone’s home address?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by lodovic »

firsttimebigboy wrote: post #644
kybernetyk wrote: post #620

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't know. If someone threatened my little kid I'd probably sh*t on moral doxxing reservations, too.

His children are only tools for him. He only cares about them as long as they provide him value.

What an awful thing to claim. Do you have any sources to support this?
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