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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by kybernetyk »

geysersam wrote: post #605
hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Feel for the guy and his family. But 1. This has nothing to do with the location of his private jet. 2. You can't do whatever you want, even to protect your family. Elon has a lot of power, he can't be allowed to abuse it because some guy decided to stalk him.

Twitter is his private property. He can ban whomever he wants.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by baby »

plandis wrote: post #126
hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Legal action being taken against the person who pulled public flight information and published already public information? The sad part is I’m sure Elon can bury this guy in fees even if the lawsuit is ultimately ruled as entirely without merit.

Come on. That is such a bad faith argument to read on HN. There is a difference between open data and someone publicizing it. I know you hate musk but let’s not write reddit-level comment please. If it had been a personality you liked you would have written a totally different comment.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ssnistfajen »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

This incident is entirely between the perpetrator and Elon. Jack Sweeney's bot has nothing to do with it because a bot relaying public info that could've been retrieved using a plethora of alternative means bears no responsibility for potentially causing this incident.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ssnistfajen »

baby wrote: post #622
plandis wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legal action being taken against the person who pulled public flight information and published already public information? The sad part is I’m sure Elon can bury this guy in fees even if the lawsuit is ultimately ruled as entirely without merit.

Come on. That is such a bad faith argument to read on HN. There is a difference between open data and someone publicizing it. I know you hate musk but let’s not write reddit-level comment please. If it had been a personality you liked you would have written a totally different comment.

Then why isn't OpenSky (where elonjet gets data from) and sites like Flightradar24 being sued by Elon then? They publish/provide the exact same info.

The only bad faith argument here is claiming publishing publicly available information is somehow endangerment.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by bjourne »

gfodor wrote: post #477
Eji1700 wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. I’m sick of seeing so many people defend this nonsense by portraying it as a safety issue. This issue is public. It’s required to be public. Someone pointing out public info is not a safety issue

This is such a ridiculous take. It’s widely considered doxxing if you republish public information that makes it easy to find a person’s actual location. Without getting into the weeds on this specific issue, the idea that any public information being republished on social media can’t have safety consequences is absurd. If, for example, the information about where someone lives is buried on a buggy government website…

Aren't there public sex offender registries in the US?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ssnistfajen »

asdajksah2123 wrote: post #321
pgodzin wrote: post #310

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

The fact that Elon used "woke mind virus" at all has already shown he is neither centrist or independent.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by baby »

ClassicOrgin wrote: post #263

What I really like about ElonJet and Sweeney's other accounts is they included emission estimates. Really blew a hole in the idea that you could ever consider Musk or Gates to be environmentalists. A recent Musk flight between Washington and Miami emitted 9 tons of CO2 [1], which is nearly double what a fuel inefficient car would emit each year. How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of c…

I don’t agree with this. You can eat meat and try to convince as many people as you can to decrease their meat consumption. Or you can not donate but convince as many people to donate to charities as possible. Etc. Is it a bad thing? And if it a bad thing why’s that?

It’s a bit like telling people that volunteer that they’re just doing it to feel good and so that they’re selfish.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ssnistfajen »

pfoof wrote: post #613

While, yes, the data could have been used to track him down, but reposting it on twitter is not enabling anyone to stalk. Crimimals that would want to hunt down Elon or X, would definitely have specialists who can gather this and other data without some random twitter user

Exactly. What elonjet posts is neither original or private. It is simply relaying information that could've been obtained via other means anyways. Placing blame on Jack Sweeney is a poorly thought-through decision. Sure he may have been emotional after the stalking incident, but the only case he has here is against the perpetrator, not Sweeney.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by paul7986 »

I'm surprised he isn't and or hasn't used a decoy plane like using various friends planes and or friend of friend's jet them use his jet in return.

As well never indicate where he's flying just use various aliases. He's made himself a huge target by jumping into the poo show that is politics.

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