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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by kccoder »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #411
hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Musk has now included a tweet seemingly trying to dox the stalker, including their license plate. How can he immediately turn from "people shouldn't post publicly available information that can be abusable" to posting someone's abusable public information?

Because he's a terrible person who doesn't really care for anyone or anything other than himself and his giant pile of gold.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by throwawaylinux »

bink wrote: post #424
djur wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did the government ask him to censor previously?

I believe they're referring to 2020 when two political campaigns were asking Twitter to remove stolen data. Of course, only one of those campaigns qualified as "the government" at the time, and many other organizations also make requests to remove stolen data, but I don't think they're using reason.

No I was referring to government agencies pressing for news to be censored and journalists banned by knowingly lying about certain stories being misinformation.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by tzs »

dools wrote: post #287
seo-speedwagon wrote: post #117

He should just make a rule that you can’t post about his plane. People would appreciate the honesty

You mean "Prosecute should just make a rule that you can't post about Fauci's plane". Correct pronouns, please.

For anyone confused about that, Musk tweeted a couple of days ago that his personal pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by sschueller »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Because following a vehicle leaving an airport is so much easier than a vehicle leaving Twitter HQ. /s

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by anigbrowl »

mlindner wrote: post #505
villgax wrote: post #108

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Lol how does it make sense to connect the public data plane tracker with someone following a car

The link is weak but because you can track the plane you can wait at the private airport terminal and wait for the guy to walk out the door. There's very few people that go in and out of those terminals so it's easy to just wait for the person in question. Once they're out you can then follow and tail their car.

There's very few people that go in and out of those terminals

In Los Angeles there are hundreds of private flights per day, and wealthy people pay for hangar space. It may well be possible to stalk someone this way, but I don't think it's such a foregone conclusion.

It's also conceivable that a very wealthy person with a flair for hype and dramatic gestures would stage an event as a demonstration or object lesson; we know of celebrities who have done just that is a misguided attempt to solicit public sympathy.

I am not suggesting this has happened; it's just one of numerous possibilities, and I point it out to point out that it's no more irrational than other plausible allegations.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by chillfox »

Meekro wrote: post #540
asdajksah2123 wrote: post #321

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Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

"Don't publish someone's location in realtime (24 hour delay is required)" seems like a simple rule that can be enforced even-handedly against both sides. On the other hand, "don't do speech that causes harm" is so vague that it guarantees endless battles. If the New York Times writes an article criticizing someone, and then a crazy person shoots that someone, is the NYT now required to stop writing articles criticiz…

Real time location tracking and harmful speech don't impact the ultra rich and normal people in the same way.

Location tracking can be dangerous to rich people because they are a target. Most people are not targets and therefore really would have significant extra risk from being tracked, although obviously no one enjoys being tracked.

Harmful speech is much more impactful to minority groups than it is to the rich. The rich can chose to live in a bubble, they can move around the globe to avoid the issues and they can hire security. Normal people can't so easily escape the consequences of society becoming hostile towards them due to widespread hate speech.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by imgabe »

brezelgoring wrote: post #376
bigtex wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

For first point: https_//twitter_com/libsoftiktok/status/1592655096252608513 'Supports' does a lot of work in his post, 'mingles with' or 'enjoys the content of' is closer to the truth. Philosophical alignment with that kind of characters betrays contempt for certain groups. For second point: https_//www.thefader_com/2022/12/13/elon-musk-talib-kweli-twitter-ban A few boos are enough to make him re-platform a dude wit…

FFS, if you just write the URL correctly HN will turn it into a link.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1592655096252608513

https://www.thefader.com/2022/12/13/elon-musk-talib-kweli-tw...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/elon-musk-smears-for...

Are you trying to make it harder to view the supposed sources? Is that because they don't support your point as well as you claim they do?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by anigbrowl »

memish wrote: post #267
gamblor956 wrote: post #245

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Boohoo. Elon Musk got a few dozen death threats. Everyone he targets his army at gets thousands of death threats each. And Elon has a very, very, long list of past targets. If Elon wants the death threats to stop he should stop instigating them against others.

He has never done so. Point me to a single tweet where he called for death threats against anyone. You can't, yet you defend literal death threats just because you don't like the target.

Come on, if you didn't notice the unfounded insinuation that a former high-ranking corporate officer at Twitter was really a pedophile and the resultant fallout over the last 72 hours, then you are really not paying attention.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by 1MachineElf »

memish wrote: post #388
asdajksah2123 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

My attacks on you are consequence culture. Your attacks on me are stochastic terrorism. Me suppressing my personal information is protecting my physical safety. You suppressing your personal information is an unacceptable breach of free expression. Me revealing your personal information is transparency in the public interest. You revealing my personal information is doxxing and puts my life in danger. @pmarca

Hard to tell if this comment is left-wing rhetoric or right-wing satire.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by zxcvbn4038 »

Remember that Elon is powered by attention so you have to be critical of everything he says. Who knows if there was actually a stalker? Was Elon really targeted or was it just random? Could have been some homeless guy trying to clean the windows.

The elonjet thing has been an annoyance to Elon for a long time, now that he owns the company he can force the guy onto another platform - and fuel the attention engine in the process.

I think it’s as simple as that - not the grand commentary on free speech that people are trying to transform it into.

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