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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by akiselev »

kjksf wrote: post #447
TehCorwiz wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flight information that twitter account was using is publically available and required by law to BE public. https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zygg/twitter-bans-elon-mus... "Sweeney has been using sites such as ADS-B Exchange to track the movements of private jets blogging to celebrities, tech billionaires, and Russian oligarchs for years now. By law, the movement of these plans is publicly available information.…

https://twitter.com/scottwww/status/1490553502640140288 > Elon uses the FAA PIA privacy program for a private plane ID. When using a PIA address, the owner is anon and private, not public. Sweeney’s workaround is (likely) to spot a (rare) ICAO plane resembling Musk’s & noting the private code. You can no longer claim it's public. It was de-anonymized in some way. It's no longer a case of reposting public information…

That plane: https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

Registered owner: FALCON LANDING LLC at 1 Rocket Rd, Hawthorne, CA.

Google Maps known businesses at 1 Rocket Rd: SpaceX and Onsite Dental (huh?)

That’s not how you do anonymous.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by runjake »

kjksf wrote: post #447
TehCorwiz wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flight information that twitter account was using is publically available and required by law to BE public. https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zygg/twitter-bans-elon-mus... "Sweeney has been using sites such as ADS-B Exchange to track the movements of private jets blogging to celebrities, tech billionaires, and Russian oligarchs for years now. By law, the movement of these plans is publicly available information.…

https://twitter.com/scottwww/status/1490553502640140288 > Elon uses the FAA PIA privacy program for a private plane ID. When using a PIA address, the owner is anon and private, not public. Sweeney’s workaround is (likely) to spot a (rare) ICAO plane resembling Musk’s & noting the private code. You can no longer claim it's public. It was de-anonymized in some way. It's no longer a case of reposting public information…

Stop spamming this thread repeatedly with the same information again and again.

His plane registration is not anonymized and is well-known[1].

1. https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/NNumberResul...

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ShredKazoo »

p1necone wrote: post #427
pgodzin wrote: post #310

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

"Free Speech Absolutism" is just another conservative boondoggle that they can endlessly talk about to attract voters. Of course actually trying to put it in practice immediately falls apart, but that's not the point. Nobody on the malicious side of the "malicious or stupid?" scale actually wants everyone to have unfettered freedom of speech (see: republican outrage at LGBTQ rights, people teaching/learning about sys…

>people teaching/learning about systemic racism ('CRT')

This is less of a free speech issue, and more of a "what should government employees be paid to do" issue.

It's the difference between a gutter punk wearing a swastika, and a cop on duty wearing a swastika. The constitution prohibits the government from making a law regarding the gutter punk. But while the cop is on duty, they're an employee of the state, and it's perfectly reasonable for voters to say "we don't want to pay government employees to do that".

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by nickv »

As a reminder, as Elon talks about personal safety, this is the man who posted personal information about a former employee of his on twitter that ended with him having to “move his entire family because of the death threats that showed up”

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ex-twitter-employ...

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by [deleted] »

spritefs wrote: post #306
joshuamorton wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Doxxing" isn't illegal and never has been.

It isn't legal in California > Every person who, with intent to place another person in reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of the other person’s immediate family, by means of an electronic communication device, and without consent of the other person, and for the purpose of imminently causing that other person unwanted physical contact, injury, or harassment, by a third party, electronically distrib…

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by standardUser »

ClassicOrgin wrote: post #263

What I really like about ElonJet and Sweeney's other accounts is they included emission estimates. Really blew a hole in the idea that you could ever consider Musk or Gates to be environmentalists. A recent Musk flight between Washington and Miami emitted 9 tons of CO2 [1], which is nearly double what a fuel inefficient car would emit each year. How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of c…

When people try to pin carbon emissions on an individual's travel it sounds willfully obtuse if not completely disingenuous. The trajectory of climate change will not be altered by a few thousand billionaires taking fewer flights. You know this, I know this, we all know this.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by osigurdson »

"Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.

Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603181423787380737

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by osigurdson »

asdajksah2123 wrote: post #321
pgodzin wrote: post #310

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

Is there a distinction between speech and posting other's PII (Personally Identifiable Information)?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by KingOfCoders »

hajile wrote: post #372
antod wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of commercial flights each year when you've got multiple Teslas and hundreds of private flights each year? Because there are hundreds of thousands (millions?) of other truck owners also using the same justification to keep their truck? This isn't sticking up for hypocritical wasteful billionaires, just pointing there are not very many of them in th…

The 15 largest shipping container ships produce as much sulfur pollution as all non-commercial cars on the entire planet put together. There's thousands of those ships. Of all vehicle pollution, something like 95+% of it is large commercial vehicles. Your switching from a truck to a car makes effectively ZERO difference in global emissions. If EVERY non-commercial vehicle in the US went down to ZERO pollution, it wou…

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