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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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post #284

The emphasis on safety for Fauci's family while simultaneously dismantling community safety rules on Twitter is pretty disconcerting. Prosecute really is a wannabe feudal lord. EDIT: Updated to include Elon's preferred pronouns.

I think the possessive version of Musk's pronoun is just "Fauci" not "Fauci's."

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Devils Advocate: why would that be a bad thing?

OSINT accounts provide detailed information on a number of global conflicts, not just the ones that get covered in the media. And the level of detail and analysis is almost always better than what you get in the mainstream media.

It wasn’t clear that parent was referring specifically to military OSINT and I took it more as general OSINT which is often of civilians, and can be less ethical and lead to false conclusions.

Reddit locating the boston bomber, etc.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Knowing when/where a private plane lands makes it a lot easier to stalk the passengers of that plane. This is of course entirely separate from whether such info was used against Musk or his family, or whether such a possibility is sufficient grounds for attempting to silence those who make it easily accessible (it's still accessible thanks to ADS-B for anyone with basic technical skills and cares enough).

Bernard Arnault (the new richest person in the world, and head of LVMH group) gave up his personal private jet to avoid this kind of tracking. Elon Musk can too if he wants to avoid the scrutiny.

Instead opting to rent different private jets from a fleet.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

I think it comes down to tangible harm vs intangible theoretical harm. Anyone can claim intangible harm from anything.

Doxing someone is a real tangible harm with very likely dangerous outcomes. Having an opinion is not.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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I am curious. What is the rationale behind the law that makes BE public info?

Indeed, airwaves in the US are public, and the FCC allocates spectrum to transmitters. But there's no law blocking who is allowed to listen on a given frequency. Read up on the Radio Act of 1927 for rationale. See also Executive Order 13642, "Making Open and Machine Readable the New Default for Government Information".

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

But generating hate against the Jews and Trans people is okay. Those tweets stay up.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#388

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

My attacks on you are consequence culture. Your attacks on me are stochastic terrorism.

Me suppressing my personal information is protecting my physical safety. You suppressing your personal information is an unacceptable breach of free expression.

Me revealing your personal information is transparency in the public interest. You revealing my personal information is doxxing and puts my life in danger.

@pmarca

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#389

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

> speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people

What this means in practice is "speech that powerful, privileged, unaccountable people, who think they are worthy of controlling the thoughts of everyone else, deem to be 'harmful', based on their vague feelings and biases."

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is complete idiocy. Celebrities and billionaires don't get special speech rights. There are very good reasons all aircraft are tracked publicly. If Elmo's plane ever goes down or gets hijacked he might appreciate why. According to Twitter's new "policy" any person who takes a picture of someone in front of the Eiffel tower or any recognizable place can be accused of doxxing and banned.

I doubt the policy covers one-offs like this - I'm guessing it's more for continuous tracking.

You can read the policy. This example is in fact an actionable offense if they decide they want to enforce it.
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