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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by PathOfEclipse »

asdajksah2123 wrote: post #321
pgodzin wrote: post #310

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Blocking speech that may be harmful to a handful of millionaires and billionares = Common Sense. Not promoting speech that may be harmful to tens of thousands of already marginalized people = Woke Mind Virus

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by fallous »

saboot wrote: post #111

Is he afraid of a stalker following him in a plane? He uses this as an excuse, then discredits himself by going on to threaten legal action against Sweeney. Wants it both ways.

Knowing when/where a private plane lands makes it a lot easier to stalk the passengers of that plane.

This is of course entirely separate from whether such info was used against Musk or his family, or whether such a possibility is sufficient grounds for attempting to silence those who make it easily accessible (it's still accessible thanks to ADS-B for anyone with basic technical skills and cares enough).

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Post by rodgerd »

pgodzin wrote: post #310

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

He supports LibsofTikTok, which has resulting in whole hospitals being shut down by terrorists.

He unbanned Taleb Kweli, who was banned for using twitter to stalk, harass, and organise mobs against a woman he didn't like.

His campaign against Yoel Roth has resulted in Roth and his family having to flee their house.

He's very, very happy with threats, including death threats if they are people that he doesn't like.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by rodgerd »

trident5000 wrote: post #147
jacquesm wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He should make up his mind about this 'free speech' thing and then stick to whatever decision he comes up with for at least a couple of months. This is beyond silly.

He said in multiple tweets theres still rules particularly with direct harm to people. Idk why you would think doxxing and tracking someones location (which in this case they stalked his family) would be ok. I feel like this is just a talking point even though you and others know better but just dont like Musk. If thats the case just say it.

Explain Yoel Roth.

Explain Libs of Tiktok.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by antod »

ClassicOrgin wrote: post #263

What I really like about ElonJet and Sweeney's other accounts is they included emission estimates. Really blew a hole in the idea that you could ever consider Musk or Gates to be environmentalists. A recent Musk flight between Washington and Miami emitted 9 tons of CO2 [1], which is nearly double what a fuel inefficient car would emit each year. How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of c…

> How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of commercial flights each year when you've got multiple Teslas and hundreds of private flights each year?

Because there are hundreds of thousands (millions?) of other truck owners also using the same justification to keep their truck?

This isn't sticking up for hypocritical wasteful billionaires, just pointing there are not very many of them in the grand scheme of things. Truck owners reducing emissions by a few percent (let alone dropping to what a car would do) would have a much bigger effect than billionaires or celebs reducing by 100%.

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chii wrote: post #329
mplewis wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that makes me think twice about that argument is that Elon has just spent an enormous sum of money on a social media website that doesn’t seem to further the goals of materially improving the world.

> doesn’t seem to further the goals of materially improving the world. why should that be a goal of his? I mean, unless you expect that just because he's rich, that he's obliged, how his enormous amount of money is spent is not something anyone else can critisize.

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by nikolay »

Twitter 2.0 suspended a bunch of my legitimate accounts without any explanation. Also, my personal account, opened in February 2007, is also in some kind of read-only mode - I cannot change my name. Actually, I don't want to change my name, just to remove some emoji suffix. The error I'm getting is "Account update failed: Denied." Twitter 1.0 sucked, but 2.0 sucks even more!

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by TehCorwiz »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

The flight information that twitter account was using is publically available and required by law to BE public.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zygg/twitter-bans-elon-mus...

"Sweeney has been using sites such as ADS-B Exchange to track the movements of private jets blogging to celebrities, tech billionaires, and Russian oligarchs for years now. By law, the movement of these plans is publicly available information. “This account has every right to post jet whereabouts, ADS-B data is public, every aircraft in the world is required to have a transponder, Even AF1 (@AirForceTrack) Twitter policy states data found on other sites is allowed to be shared here as well,” the account’s pinned tweet read before it was banned."

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