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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

Just so we're clear: You'll be totally in favor of maintaining the accounts of anyone who routinely posts the location of others, including yourself, right? Because that's not stalking at all... right?

Just so we're clear: I'm not free speech absolutist.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flight information provided to the FAA is considered public information. This is funded with taxpayer money, and is not privy to privacy.

To put it in such a highly accessible form is an invitation to crackpots. Crackpots and mobs generally do not get incited by FAA travel logs that requires some diligence to track.

This information is so accessible, it is openly broadcast in the open radio spectrum! You can get this info with a $20 RTL-SDR dongle! The Horror!!!!

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#933

Good to see I'm vindicated in the prediction that Musk has zero interest in free speech, he only has interest in his narrative being dominant on Twitter.

this is still quick judgement, you don't know why the account is suspended

It appears that all automated flight tracking accounts utilizing open source data from @ADSBexchange have been banned from Twitter, including @RUOligarchJets.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#935
post #881

I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…

Doxxing someone's location != "free speech" by most people's definitions.

The location is for the private aircraft owned by Elon Musk, not Elon Musk himself. He could stuff a dummy on the aircraft and have it flown across the country and the tracking account would not provide any information that is different. This is not doxxing because whether Elon Musk was aboard the aircraft was never implied.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#937
post #724

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My hope was for a more transparent Twitter. I guess that's out the window too.

I dunno, with all of the recent leaks, Twitters internal workings have all been made public. Sounds pretty transparent to me!

Yeah, but they have to be open about present workings not just past workings. I'll give them time. If they can be clear and transparent about even this I'll be happy.

Yeah Elon might be a dictator throwing his weight around (I probably would too) but if there is due process and transparency so be it.

This doesn't appear to be the case. They state in the rules that publicly available information can be shared.

I'm sure we will find out one way or another what direction Twitter heads.

It seems odd to me that you would create an account tracking anyone's plane. That doesn't seem to benefit anyone but people have weird hobbies.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#938

The jxcksweeney personal account[0] is now suspended, along with the Russian oligarch tracking account[1], the NASA aircraft tracking account(!)[2], @GatesJets, @ZuccJet, and @USAirForceVIP. 0. https://twitter.com/jxcksweeney 1. https://twitter.com/RUOligarchJets 2. https://twitter.com/NASAPlanes

they're also blocking linking to the instagram and facebook accounts (but it currently still works if you add a random query string to the url)

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/16031245489032478...

also, the journalist reporting this is now filtered from search

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#939
post #896
post #881

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doxxing someone's location != "free speech" by most people's definitions.

When you are using the public airspace, airwaves, or waterways there is an obligation to identify yourself to others.

Evidently not. I live on the Chesapeake Bay. I see many Coast Guard and Navy vessels regularly that are not broadcasting AIS signals used for the safety of vessels nearby. Yet others do. I also see many military aircraft not broadcasting ADS-B, yet many are.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#940

When the Elon/Twitter transaction went through, there were a lot of HN comments stating that they thought that this might actually mean a more open, "freer" Twitter. When I mentioned that Elon had already been using his power unilaterally to re-platform personal allies like Babylon Bee and Ye, I got all sorts of pedantry about the difference between suspension and banning, more pedantry about the Ye reactivation happ…

Twitter under musk will have a different set of biases from before. Whereas previously, every major platform would act in lockstep banning certain things, we can hope that musk will go against the grain. This is a healthy part of an information ecosystem. Ideally there would be larger number of players with a more diverse set of biases, but having musk in charge is still preferable to how things were before.
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