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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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It seems like the location of Elon's jet isn't actually public information and requires some sleuthing to figure out. Changes my opinion completely if true.

"Elon uses the FAA PIA privacy program for a private plane ID. When using a PIA address, the owner is anon and private, not public. Sweeney’s workaround is (likely) to spot a (rare) ICAO plane resembling Musk’s & noting the private code."

https://twitter.com/scottwww/status/1490553502640140288?s=20...

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#902

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Tail numbers and flight paths is publicly available information. https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info

So is your license plate number, and you have no reasonable expectation of the privacy of that information... but you wouldn't be happy if someone went around tracking everywhere you went now would you?

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> I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Where's the hypocrisy? Musk said he wanted to broaden the speech allowed on the platform, not allow speech of all kinds. > "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem like a liberal conspiracy." Maybe try getting your info from a non-leftwing source. There…

Musk has stated several times he wants "free speech" and when pushed further, mostly talks about "speech that is not at odds with the law". So yes, that is pretty inconsistent with banning an account which did nothing illegal. Assuming it was Musk who issued it. >from a non-leftwing source Can you people stop going "left wing right wing" for one day and see things for what they are instead of this infantile black-whi…

Who is "you people"? And how is it not relevant when it is the verbatim-repeated left-wing talking point to say that the Twitter files are a "nothing burger"?

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Yeah I agree that Elon is full of shit, but there's a little lie in here that needs to be addressed: > normal company operation in good faith But it wasn't "normal company operation" because they completely disregarded preexisting company policy for dealing with political figures. Here are political figures that they didn't ban (who were inciting violence) > 20. In June 2018, Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei tweeted, “#…

The larger problem isn't the lack of uniform enforcement. Our actual problem was trusting Twitter to remain impartial in the first place. It's crazy how many people bought into the "global town hall" bullshit Elon Musk pedaled, and now it's unsurprising to watch him backpedal now that the reigns are in his hands. Hopefully people realize that trusting $COMPANY will never deliver you anything good. We either regulate…

> Hopefully people realize that trusting $COMPANY will never deliver you anything good. We either regulate the things we care about, or let stuff like this happen. Either way, the world keeps spinning.

Or an alternative: people can use social media that doesn't suck whenever something like this happens, and the market forces will punish the stupidity on twitter or any other platform that forgets what's owed to its userbase

I have no idea why your first instinct is to regulate when twitter doesn't have a monopoly and there are several very similar alternatives that are growing in popularity

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Doxxing someone's location != "free speech" by most people's definitions.

Unfortunately, "most people's definition" does not factor in at all when Elon is claiming to only be upholding the law. It is my understanding that "doxxing" is not only largely legal in the U.S., it is in fact common practice for various administrative databases to be published unredacted by default. Whether the law adequately protects people's privacy is a different conversation (worth having in my opinion!), and s…

Has Musk ever said that he supports doxxing individuals?

Court cases or unredacted mass data dumps are far different than data dumps targeting very specific individuals -- usually with the intent of enabling direct harm.

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>If you agree its fine, would you apply the same reasoning to [favorite politician]? What, like Air Force One? https://twitter.com/USAirForceVIP

He has the best security detail in the world, but yeah, seems like an unnecessary security risk. I'm sure if a federal agency requested this bot be taken down as a security concern it would be a reasonable request. More reasonable that many other requests made under the veil of "security"

> I'm sure if a federal agency requested this bot be taken down

Which they wouldn't do because the secret service isn't stupid. They know that current location has very little impact on security. It is future movements that allow you to plan an attack, which are closely guarded.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#909
The jxcksweeney personal account[0] is now suspended, along with the Russian oligarch tracking account[1], the NASA aircraft tracking account(!)[2], @GatesJets, @ZuccJet, and @USAirForceVIP.

0. https://twitter.com/jxcksweeney 1. https://twitter.com/RUOligarchJets 2. https://twitter.com/NASAPlanes

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#910

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So we have a company headquartered in SF, and I think something like 98% of twitter's political donations went to democrats, and the employees acted as constant activists whenever the executives didn't take action against high level conservatives (I'll leave aside whether that action was justified or not). Also, if you read the twitter files, the enforcement was fairly lopsided. Look what happened to @libsoftiktok --…

I think it’s worth digging into that LibsOfTikTok issue, because even the limited information we’ve got is being misinterpreted. It is a real shame that Elon decided to do a selective release. The text shared was this: ===== Site Policy Recommendation Site Policy recommends placing @LibsOfTiktok ([LTT] 1.3M followers, not verified) in a 7-day timeout at the account level meaning, not for a specific Tweet] based on th…

A shame this is downvoted, since it's quite reasonable.
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