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Be wary of imitating high-status people who can afford to countersignal

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

boringg wrote: post #607
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #409

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I’m doing an open source solar powered farming robot nonprofit thing! [1] It’s an amazing feeling finishing a huge PCB design project for work and then immediately pushing the changes to GitHub. I’ve got a new brushless motor controller in the works that costs under $40 per board fully assembled for high current dual motor control, and anyone can order them (ideally wait till design is slightly more mature). [2] [1]…

Cool problem and I can imagine it would be fun to solve - wish you the best of luck!

Thank you. It’s very fun indeed!

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Post by seattle_spring »

rayiner wrote: post #602
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We shouldn't be. Barring dominance by some fundamentalist group, be it religious, cultural, or political, humans have had piercings and tattoos. I like that fact that it is no longer countercultural to adopt these basic human expressions.

Tattoos are frowned upon in most cultures in the world. It's not just "fundamentalists" (whatever that means). And who cares about "human expression?" If you need to "express" yourself, write a book or something where the rest of us don't have to look at it. America would be a lot better if people thought less about how to “express” themselves, and more about how to keep the social environment around them tidy and or…

If anyone is showing that they have problems in this thread, it's definitely not the people with tattoos.

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Post by csomar »

Reebz wrote: post #417
SoftTalker wrote: post #359

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Very senior/wealthy people can get away with whatever they want. It's why Zuckerberg can look like a total slob at Facebook (notice he still wore a suit while testifying to Congress though). If a senior executive wore a $200 suit to work, nobody would say a word.

Zuckerberg wears $800 tshirts amongst other carefully selected pieces of his wardrobe. He isn’t rummaging through a local Target for a basic tee and jeans. I think this is a good example of countersignal interpretation!

$800 tshirts have the same fabric as a Uniqlo tshirt (or maybe worse?).

> amongst other carefully selected pieces of his wardrobe

so if it was not that carefully selected, he'd look like a homeless?

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Post by osigurdson »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #578
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I knew you were someone who could afford to "ignore" social cues. I used to think the tech-type was not like that until I observed some common threads, at lest in the Bay Area (driving an EV or planning to buy one - likely a Tesla, Patagonia vests, loves to hike, has an Apple watch)

I work in DevOps and check off literally none of the items you listed. I still get paid relatively well, and I don’t signal unless it’s required to maintain my job. I’m happy enough.

The next time you feel the need to "signal to maintain your job", try not signalling. I suspect you will end up with a better job.

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Post by bloqs »

mikea1 wrote: post #309
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You find it unrelatable (and most commenters on this website will too.) People can be broadly separated into 2 categories in terms of cognitive wiring for personality psychology. " People people" and "Things* people". (Theres a lot of overlap between interest in aesthetics and interest in ideas here too, but a separate discussion) These map rather neatly onto other things like introversion and agreeableness, but park…

This people-people vs. things-people dichotomy is an interesting theory. Did you read this somewhere or is this something you deduced?

Commonly discussed https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.0018... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits

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Post by bloqs »

gbjw wrote: post #516
bloqs wrote: post #244

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You find it unrelatable (and most commenters on this website will too.) People can be broadly separated into 2 categories in terms of cognitive wiring for personality psychology. " People people" and "Things* people". (Theres a lot of overlap between interest in aesthetics and interest in ideas here too, but a separate discussion) These map rather neatly onto other things like introversion and agreeableness, but park…

This is a blatant false dichotomy and a dehumanizing one at that.

Could you expand? I don't agree but I don't know what you are refuting.

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Post by namaria »

7speter wrote: post #624
namaria wrote: post #590

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Twenty years ago those would signal strongly that you don't depend on or respect social conventions. Now, that you have a lot of disposable income.

Twenty years ago there was a law and order episode where someone said that even school teachers got tattoos then :)

Ah yes 20 years ago is not the 90s anymore I keep forgetting...

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Post by denton-scratch »

ycombobreaker wrote: post #437
denton-scratch wrote: post #93

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Bitcoin Local offers the opportunity to meet a seller at a physical location. Same with Local Monero. If you're planning to exchange $10M, you'll probably need a couple of bag-carriers, and perhaps some muscle as well. You can also trade for non-physical "cash", e.g. local bank transfer via escrow. As far as I'm concerned, that's a cash exchange.

Won't the usage of escrow trigger a KYC/AML "event" of some sort? That would tie the two parties' identities in a way that a cash evades.

I think local traders are expected to execute some level of KYC. In my experience (under £1K, online) that's a photo of me, holding my driving licence and a piece of paper syaing "I'm buying X from Y". I've never tried a physical cash trade in person.

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

thiht wrote: post #580
DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #378

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> re: the modern upper class that wearing a $2k Rolex or driving a $70k BMW is frowned upon. always has been moon meme. unless you're neveaux rich or stupid or both it is in your absolute interest not to show what you have. driving a Prius used to be that signal but today it has shifted. My direct boss was a Schenker heir (the freight forwarding company) and the only way he showed off is by living in a rental house (…

> neveaux rich nouveau riche, or nouveaux riches Sorry if this comes off as pedantic, but as a French, I couldn't resist :D

pas de soucis, absolutely fair point :D

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Post by lanstin »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #460
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Tho they worry so much about it getting stolen I think they enjoy biking overall less than they would a bike suitable for just hopping on and biking around to different places.

If someone can afford to roll up to work on a bike that expensive, they are probably not worried about it getting stolen. Specifically, they either likely have somewhere to lock it up, or can afford to replace it (and/or have it insured). Make no mistake, rocking up to work on your Factor/S-Works/Cervelo/etc is a flex , either deliberately (look at my boutique, expensive bike, peasants), or subconsciously ("oh yeah,…

I have many biking acquaintances with darned expensive bikes and they are singularly unwilling to just bike to the lunch place leaving it locked to a parking sign pole. Diaclaimer: Pre covid data, now we are WFH
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