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Post by aardvarkr »

lettergram wrote: post #226
alarmingfox wrote: post #4

Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

Not that I think it should be banned (I don't think it should) I think it's also obvious that this jet tracker doesn't exactly aid in the public discourse, it seems far closer to targeted harassment.. Again, I don't think anything should be banned outside of direct threats (I'm a free speech absolutist). But it does seem clear, even from that tweet by Musk, that that twitter account seemed to impact his personal safe…

Oh no, a billionaire felt bullied because someone posted public flight tracking data on social media? That’s nowhere near the bar for “targeted harassment”. You know what is? That same billionaire has been calling people pedophiles in a targeted attempt at character assassination.

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

throwaway4736 wrote: post #36
DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely not going bankrupt though people would be happy to see it. Advertisers have come back and the staff is muuuuch smaller than before.

Quoted post unavailable.

Just google Apple and other advertisers coming back. Don't be hater/loser.

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Post by fzeroracer »

Not at all surprised to see people I argued with prior suddenly shift tact to instead argue that it's a privacy issue etc etc despite literally taking the free speech stance like a few weeks prior.

As I've said and will keep saying Musk does not care about free speech. People are falling for the lies of a billionaire who has been caught in multiple objective lies before.

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Post by CoastalCoder »

m_fayer wrote: post #409
CommieBobDole wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Musk's behavior (and the behavior of a lot of public figures, really) makes more sense if you assume that he's not saying things to express ideas, but instead regards words as noises that you make with your mouth that cause other people to do or think things; if they stop having the intended effect, you have to change the noises. It's not hypocrisy, it's the natural outgrowth of seeing other people as a colle…

This is not far from how spectrum-y people see others unless they're motivated to overcome their deficiencies. I don't think that's a coincidence.

I can't tell of the parent comment is a troll or just shockingly ignorant.

So let's just say, citation needed.

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Post by FactolSarin »

theturtletalks wrote: post #401
grumple wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty amazing that one guy tweeting public info made Elon spend 44 billion.

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44 billion was around 25% of his net worth. That's a lot of money, even for Musk. If his current actions cause Tesla to be viewed less favorably and sales to decline, it could cost him a lot more than that

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Post by ceejayoz »

rootusrootus wrote: post #314
lucideer wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have very heavy toll on his persona His supporters are fanatical - none of his previous abhorrent actions have had a heavy toll, so it's unclear why this one should. He is certainly receiving a large backlash to his recent actions, but I think that's more a case of people (outside of tech) who would've paid little attention to him before being forced to be more fully aware of his existence, than anyone who previous…

There's a very real argument to be made now that remaining publicly in control of Tesla is bad for TSLA shareholders. The brand is going to suffer if he doesn't at least put a plausible puppet at the head of the company. Twitter is already a lost cause. He wanted to create a more popular Parler. Probably it'll just end up in the same place with the same niche user base. At least SpaceX has Gwynn.

> At least SpaceX has Gwynn.

This also seems to be reassuring to NASA.

"'I hugged her with a smile on my face, because I know she is running that thing. She’s running SpaceX,' Nelson said."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/spacex-leader...

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Post by shkkmo »

breakingcups wrote: post #107
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #61

A lot of hypocrisy from Elon here, but I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to taking down these accounts that are tracking people as it's so close to a Doxing or could lead to something bad happening. A few years ago, we were all mad at Uber for their "God View" which tracked celebrity locations -> https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-38314832

Uber used their own private, proprietary information. Flights are public by design. If he had a problem with that, he should not own a jet.

The data isn't publicly available from the government because the plane is on the LADD list https://laddlist.com/aircraft/N628ts

Thus the only public source is ADSBExchange because it uses croudsourced data.

So the data isn't "public by design" but due to a lack of privacy laws that prohibit selling this sort location data.

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Post by philippejara »

badRNG wrote: post #275
potency wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's also restored countless accounts that were banned under previous ownership. While banning ElonJet flys in the face of being a "free speech absolutist", he's certainly demonstrated that he's generally in favor of freer speech.

> he's certainly demonstrated that he's generally in favor of freer speech. He's just changed who gets banned to be more in line with his personal beliefs. Accounts banned under the previous regime are unbanned and accounts that either were or likely would be permitted previously are now banned, with recent examples being the account that initially hosted the viral clip of Elon being booed on Chappelle's show and now…

the account that hosted his clip wasn't suspended, it was deleted, doesn't seem like anyone banned it.

for example here's a banned account: https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/ here's the account that posted the video: https://twitter.com/CleoPat48937885

well seems like he reactivated his account(pretty sure you got like 30 days or something to reactivate it after deleting or something like that), here's an archive of how it looked: https://archive.ph/W0d0v

The elonjet account however is a pretty bad one gotta agree, wonder if there will be any kind of explanation or attempt at one.

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Post by gitfan86 »

alarmingfox wrote: post #4

Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

Elon, like a lot of people underestimates how much power corrupts. It is really easy to say "I would never cheat on my boyfriend/girlfriend when you don't have tons of attractive people throwing themselves at you" same thing here. It is really easy to say you believe in free speech when you don't have the ability to silence someone that you think may be putting your family in danger.
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