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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by yanderekko »

pjc50 wrote: post #157
yanderekko wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: Is there an alternative narrative here? People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason, but are there no real claims that the account perhaps had started to engage in other rule-breaking content? Note that I'm asking for an actual steelmanned argument for why there's no possible defense of Musk here, not why people have high priors to just assume there's no defense.

Why does anyone care about alternative "narratives"? Are there any other facts that one might like to introduce? Not alternative facts, things that actually happened.

>Why does anyone care about alternative "narratives"?

Because the narrative of "Musk changed his mind" that is overwhelmingly popular here implicitly relies on there being no good intervening justification for why Musk would've done this, but afaik this doesn't seem like an incredibly safe assumption.

I mean, I guess you could be asking why someone would care to correct themselves if they have a popular-but-incorrect view on something, and sadly that's not always a bad question.

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Post by shmageggy »

outside1234 wrote: post #148

Just log off from Twitter. Every minute you don't spend on Twitter is another minute we will be closer to Elon having to eat $44B and probably take a horrific haircut on Tesla.

Delete your account. I did. I took stock of how much value it provided me, decided it was not much and declining, and not enough to offset supporting a billionaire megalomaniac large-scale boosting far right bullshit.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by seanw444 »

wpietri wrote: post #205
ancapsfascists wrote: post #98

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Hacker News fell for it, hook line and sinker. The number of people saying "give him a chance" and "he actually believes in free speech" dominated those who were like, "he'll probably just change who gets banned to be more in line with his personal beliefs."

I saw somebody call Musk "Phony Stark", and that seems to me a pithy summary of the cognitive biases going on here. This place is a magnet for would-be world-changing tech geniuses. Musk's level of technical skill is in dispute, but he's been incredibly good at hyping himself as Thomas Edison 2.0, and has been very effective in using that to attract cheap capital for gee-whiz projects. I get why he got the benefit of…

> fragile narcissist buys criticism factory

That's a succinct way to put it. I like that.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by [deleted] »

polygamous_bat wrote: post #149
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His narrative being petty things like "my pronouns are impeach/Fauci", since that's definitely something to spend $44B for.

I believe that is only the tip of the iceberg, given anti-vax narrative and transphobia is endlessly repeated by those on the far/alt-right. I see the "Prosecute/Fauci" tweet as a signal towards his intended audience for what kind of place he wants Twitter to be.

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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by yanderekko »

smcl wrote: post #240
pjc50 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does anyone care about alternative "narratives"? Are there any other facts that one might like to introduce? Not alternative facts, things that actually happened.

This same account said elsewhere in this thread "I can't think of any", about times Elon Musk has said he would do one thing, then went on to do another. This is someone who is for some reason really trying to defend Musk.

Yes, I have a lower prior than you that Musk just randomly changes his opinions all the time for no reason. And I've asked for meaningful evidence that would help me update this prior. Is this really an unfathomably bizarre epistemic strategy to you?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by rootusrootus »

lettergram wrote: post #198
yanderekko wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: Is there an alternative narrative here? People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason, but are there no real claims that the account perhaps had started to engage in other rule-breaking content? Note that I'm asking for an actual steelmanned argument for why there's no possible defense of Musk here, not why people have high priors to just assume there's no defense.

I mean, he's openly been saying the level of death threats he's been receiving is exceedingly high. Seems like it could just be for security.

That is silly. Anybody who really wants to know where that jet is won't be relying on an entertainment account on Twitter, they'll just use FlightRadar24 to get it real time.
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