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I suspect that for most people, it still has a way to go before it could be considered a daily driver, but the rate of progress is incredible and I’m sure it will get there.
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Yes! CLI based browsers are awesome.
Apologies for nitpicking, but Lynx is not a CLI program. CLI programs are non-interactive, composable via stdio / shell scripting, designed to do their one task and return you to your shell prompt. Lynx is an interactive, terminal-based (character cell grid) program, that takes over your shell session - it has every quality of a GUI program, except it's using a terminal emulator as its toolkit. But of course - it's s…
But it's also common to use "CLI" to include "TUI" programs, so I don't think your parent is wrong.
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> a browser with Firefox's backend and instead render with Blink Gecko is Firefox's "backend" ...
Isn't it just the rendering engine? There's more to a browser than just laying out html.
If you'd like to learn more about how a web browser project would organize its internal architecture, but are discouraged by the complexity of Chromium, Firefox, etc. I'd recommend source diving Ladybird (https://github.com/SerenityOS/ladybird), NetSurf (https://www.netsurf-browser.org/), or Dillo (https://www.dillo.org/).
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Well the worst part of Firefox is arguably Gecko. If one could make a browser with Firefox's backend and instead render with Blink that would be pretty dope.
It is Blink which drives the monoculture more than Chrome/Chromium since it is there that standards are made or broken (or flouted). What is needed is competition in this space, a new browser 'engine' to compete with Blink (Chrome/Chromium/Brave/Vivaldi/Edge/etc.), Gecko (Firefox/Seamonkey/etc) and Webkit (Safari/Epiphany/anything on iThings). Maybe Servo can be rescued from oblivion? Get Mozilla to dump their activi…
I think you may have meant "flouted" there? Though sometimes flaunting a standard might also be a thing.
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Yes! CLI based browsers are awesome.
Apologies for nitpicking, but Lynx is not a CLI program. CLI programs are non-interactive, composable via stdio / shell scripting, designed to do their one task and return you to your shell prompt. Lynx is an interactive, terminal-based (character cell grid) program, that takes over your shell session - it has every quality of a GUI program, except it's using a terminal emulator as its toolkit. But of course - it's s…
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> Or Safari of course, it's really a great browser if one's on the Mac. The venerable iCab or new Orion from Kagi shows what's possible here. https://www.icab.de/ https://browser.kagi.com/ Kagi's Orion runs Firefox and Chrome extensions, including on iOS, and of course works with Kagi search, which is enough better that it's worth switching from Google/Bing/DDG. --- EDIT to add, on iCab, it's been updated as of 2020,…
>Kagi search, which is enough better that it's worth switching from Google/Bing/DDG. But highly unlikely to be better enough to justify paying a subscription for it (for most people, anyway), so it's always going to be confined to a small niche of users.
I'd argue if you live in first world, earn a living from tech, even if you don't care whether you pay for things vs. be tracked, it's worth the subscription, in the sense of, it's enough better to be worth paying for as a better tool, not just because there's no gaming of the SERPs above the fold. The Lenses are impressive, but it's not just that, the results are what one used to appreciate from web search. After getting used to the quality, the lower quality of Google or the Bing derivatives like DDG will frustrate you.
If you dislike adtech or value privacy, it's worth the subscription, because there are no ads and no tracking. (Also, unlike neeva, to which I also subscribe, it's not an ad-alternative model from former ad-tech people.)
The other day I only had a 20W laptop charger, which I know is only enough to slow down battery discharge with FF; used Edge, and the battery actually charged significantly. Same experiences I had with Safari. I'll keep using Firefox, because it's good for the ecosystem, but when battery is an issue, I switch.
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It is Blink which drives the monoculture more than Chrome/Chromium since it is there that standards are made or broken (or flouted). What is needed is competition in this space, a new browser 'engine' to compete with Blink (Chrome/Chromium/Brave/Vivaldi/Edge/etc.), Gecko (Firefox/Seamonkey/etc) and Webkit (Safari/Epiphany/anything on iThings). Maybe Servo can be rescued from oblivion? Get Mozilla to dump their activi…
> standards are made or broken (or flaunted) I think you may have meant "flouted" there? Though sometimes flaunting a standard might also be a thing.
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They didn't say "fork of Electron", rather Electron is essentially "Chromium - browser UI" so they are saying there is a simplification to be made in an app that is "Chromium - browser UI + browser UI"
> They didn't say "fork of Electron" Flagging that the phrase "this should be a fork of Chromium, not Electron" is ambiguous between "this shouldn't be a fork of Electron" and "this shouldn't be Electron".
If you want fast and minimal, give Lynx a try. The original fast, minimal, privacy protected browser: https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/