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After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

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Re: After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

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Please don't pull a notch, please don't pull a notch...

Notch took orders of magnitude less time for orders of magnitude more money. I think they're safe.

Put on your https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moishe_Postone hat and the time portion is especially key here.

Re: After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

#63
post #29

I hope they can handle this unlike Notch (Minecraft) - reckoned becoming a billionaire overnight ruined his life.

It looks more like it showed that he's an asshole to entirety of the world. Ruining he did of his own

Just curious - what was the evidence for this before the success? I don't think people are really built to handle that much power over other people, seems like anyone that gets that much money goes down basically the same path:

- Vastly different wealth makes you unable to relate to normal people

- You have to justify that somehow to yourself and maybe others

- The easiest answer is that you're successful because you deserve it and that means other people also deserve their relative failure

- Resentment builds and you treat people differently because you see them as both failing and deserving of their failure, instead of through the lens of luck that would take away all the ego credit you built up from your perceived success

This happens in pretty much every category - top athletes think they trained harder, executives think they have a better business mind, etc. Seems like artists are the most likely ones to realize that they just got lucky and can't really claim much credit. There was a great article from the creator on the end poem in Minecraft recently about this - they literally wrote the poem but attributed it to luck/god/muses/pick-your-magical-force so didn't feel justified in claiming the royalties even though they could sue Microsoft for a DMCA violation on every copy of the game sold

Re: After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

#64
post #48

Worth noting that in the Steam store it says Windows only right now. (no Penguin/Linux yet)

Works great on Proton so: 6 hours in with ~20 dwarfs and decent automated production

Do you also experience mouse input lag? My input is constantly dropped. Test drawing ("free-hand" mode) a line of mining quickly. Are any squares missing?

Re: After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

#65
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$2m in the bank is enough to easily draw $100k/yr from interest, which fits the GP’s “set for life if we make wise choices” IMO. That is way above median income in wealthy countries. Assuming you don’t try to live in SF!

Even in the US, $100K/yr puts you comfortably above median income. If I had $100K/yr of GUARANTEED income, I would stop working for money and do whatever I felt like for the rest of my life.

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Re: After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

#66
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they’re smart they hopefully have incorporated and will only need to take money out of the corporation to pay themselves to cover their expenses. So they won’t pay tax on the full amount up front and will have most of the money pretax for future business expenses

I would guess Steam will only distribute games from companies for legal reasons...so most likely, yes.

you can sign up as an individual though and use ssn, as well as a passthru llc so as long as they have a tax entity they dont seem to care

Re: After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

#67
I'm happy for their success. However, I'm dismayed that it was their inability to pay for healthcare that landed them in this (albeit good) situation. It's not a situation that should be forced on citizens in a modern country, for which this particular example is a feel-good ending, but there are many more (orders of magnitude more) feel-bad endings, so to speak.

Re: After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

#70
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard he gave millions of dollars to his dev team. What did he do wrong?

He said some pretty awful stuff about race and gender on Twitter.

No he didn't.
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