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Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
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#362Hope it passes. I want that malicious social engineering tool purged from civilization and anyone involved in the creation of it thrown in prison.
Agreed, but only if we do the same for Facebook, Twitter et al.
Agreed, there should be rules for all of them. This is not startups trying stuff out anymore, these apps have huge influence on the course of civilization.
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#363"national security concerns" and "what about children" have always been used by government to pass useless bills. Instead of banning Tiktok, how about enforcing proper rules and regulations that every social media should follow? Why not make a proper privacy that every people in US deserves. Many people are probably glad that they are banning Chinese tech, but at the end it is gonna be superseded by Instagram which s…
I totally agree with your main point but it is very wrong to equivocate the three letter agencies to the threat authoritarian governments gaining knowledge and thus power over a nation pose.
Agree - in my opinion, the threat from three letter agencies (if one considers the entirety of the things they get up to) far exceeds the threat from China.
I believe TikTok is a MASSIVE threat to those running the show in the US, as it may be the most potent propaganda tool out there, and the US government has many juicy attack vectors that TikTok as a platform is perfect for attacking.
I tend to keep my feed pretty clean of stuff like that, but it does creep in every now and then, who knows how much anti-US propaganda is on the platform that I never encounter but others do (like the agencies who go looking for it, since "Public Relations" dominance is their job).
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#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
What? How are they lies, they were operating fine until they decided to not follow the laws one day. That was their prerogative and not the CCP deciding to block them from the market. Unless you can point to laws tiktok is violating it's not a remotely comparable situation. The way that Chinese companies work they explicitly create distinct entities that can meet the requirements of any territories that they operate…
Because they didn't 'pull out', they were banned. And Dragonfly wasn't stopped by the US, it was cancelled by Google after their employees protested. Anyway, if Google and Facebook need to follow censorship laws in China, then maybe TikTok needs to follow not-being-based-in-China laws in the US. After all, they can't just decide not to follow the laws.
Are there such laws? So the idea isn't reciprocal after all, it's to entirely target one country's companies.
https://www.thatsmags.com/china/post/32153/this-day-in-histo...
Dragonfly was stopped after pressure from Americans, both civil and political pressure.
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#365I don’t understand the bi-partisan dislike of Tik Tok. As far as content goes, it’s pretty wholesome compared to what you see on movies and TV these days. It’s much better at giving kids age appropriate content than other sites. There is also a lot less commercialized stuff. Way better than cartoons that peddle toys and junk.
Tik Tok is wholesome. Now that’s a new one.
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#366Hope it passes. I want that malicious social engineering tool purged from civilization and anyone involved in the creation of it thrown in prison.
Shall we apply the same standard to mainstream "journalism", or is there a certain level of acceptable social engineering?
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#367"national security concerns" and "what about children" have always been used by government to pass useless bills. Instead of banning Tiktok, how about enforcing proper rules and regulations that every social media should follow? Why not make a proper privacy that every people in US deserves. Many people are probably glad that they are banning Chinese tech, but at the end it is gonna be superseded by Instagram which s…
I totally agree with your main point but it is very wrong to equivocate the three letter agencies to the threat authoritarian governments gaining knowledge and thus power over a nation pose.
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#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keeping our markets open is the American way and it's how the US became the preeminent trading nation and the cornerstone and chief architect of the global economic system. The US always pushes hard for other nations to open their markets as well (for better or worse), but it also leads by example.
A different take: https://www.amazon.com/Kicking-Away-Ladder-Development-Persp...
I don't think that is a totally different take. I don't buy the narrative that there was some conspiracy, I just think that business and political leaders in Western nations truly thought what they were doing was right, both for themselves and for developing nations. No conspiracy necessary when self-interest and arrogance explain it sufficiently. Haven't read the book though, so I don't know how conspiratorial their take actually is.
The nations that best bucked the trend were the Eastern Asian nations that engaged in protectionist policies despite the desires of the West. Much like China continues to do today.
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#369"national security concerns" and "what about children" have always been used by government to pass useless bills. Instead of banning Tiktok, how about enforcing proper rules and regulations that every social media should follow? Why not make a proper privacy that every people in US deserves. Many people are probably glad that they are banning Chinese tech, but at the end it is gonna be superseded by Instagram which s…
I have to imagine the 3 letter orgs are already scraping tiktok.
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#370Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is one of the more egregious examples of the complete infantilization of Gen Z human beings by older generations. No, the kids will not throw a temper tantrum and vote for $THE_OTHER_GUY because you blocked their access to an app. The kids, in fact, stand for more than just politics-as-sports.
Wow - jumping to a lot of conclusions! My only point is that an old guy attacking the most popular platform used by millions of users as their primary entertainment and self-expression will have some repercussions. $THE_OTHER_GUY will build a whole campaign around a hamfisted approach and not just for GenZ.
Political predictions should be more than idle fictions.